A couple of thoughts on the myth of greedy Boomers: is it really that hard to believe that folks who have enjoyed the quality years of our nationalized healthcare system would vote for its continuation?
I am a reluctant Boomer who has always supported a hybrid healthcare system.
I don’t vacation in Tuscany, Florida, or anywhere else, for that matter.
The point I am trying to make goes something like this: for decades, Canadians have allowed the Liberal Party of Canada (and the Liberal Party of Ontario) to pit Canadian against Canadian for the Party’s own electoral success.
As conservatives, should we not be attempting to do just the opposite?
Definitely. We need (I'm an early GenX) need to do this by joining the youth in their political activities, using our financial resources (even buying a round of drinks is a big help) and centering young Canadians in our political discussions and approach to issues.
I think a lot of boomers would support hybrid if they understood that hybrid doesn’t equal US style healthcare. Parties like the NdP have removed all middle ground from the discussion and I think that’s the biggest issue. I also think provincial opposition shoulders most of this blame and not so much federal - though I agree that legacy media perpetuates it with what would be best described as propaganda. I opted out of legacy media over 15 years ago after being in some interviews and then seeing how the story was actually portrayed in an area where I have expert knowledge. (I’m Gen X, my parents are/were boomers.)
Hear! Hear! Wholly agree! Mixed system is the way to go. And I know boomers who abuse the system we have now while complaining the entire time. “Did you pay for your treatment?” I always ask,just to cut them off. It’s not a right! My tax dollars,year round, continue to pay for their care while they lounge in Florida sis months less a day.
Right on! And it’s not just younger Canadians who have lost faith in the system. As a senior who has twice waited- in Ontario- for MRI appointments for more than a year!! recently, I am totally in favour of a hybrid system. Outsource all diagnostic testing and reserve hospitals for those with serious and chronic illnesses. The current system is like sludge.
This doesn’t make any sense. Private anything tends to be more efficient and operate at lower cost but higher volumes for really anything. The way Canada does healthcare is broken and doubling down on forcing everything to be provided in the public system would only weaken it. We have a bloated managerial class who is comfortable and not pushed to be efficient in how public funds are used. Look at the money thrown in the healthcare system compared to the decreasing access and it becomes apparent - more money feeds management but doesn’t actually fix frontline delivery.
The reality is the system is failing so why not be losing faith. We live in Alberta and unfortunately we've had to try and access our health system over the last year. 23 months for an MRI, 6 months for a CT scan & 6 months for a detailed breast cancer scan. That's just for the tests then add months & years for treatments. We did private pay for the MRI - took 2 weeks now we're heading to Ontario for private pay knee surgery -less than a month after first contact. The system has definitely not been there when we needed it. My spouse & I each paid into the system for 40+ years but now the only way to get care in a timely manner is to abandon the system & seek out a private (very expensive) pay alternative.
If countries like France and Sweden with their mixed public-private health care systems rank as the best in the world, then lets copy them. I have long thought that the right wing government in Alberta with all their money and their interest in less government should have gone toe to toe with Ottawa decades ago over this issue and forced real change that would have benefited all Canadians. Hey we (Alberta UCP) still could!
Yes, it should say older. I had to read it 3 times to figure out the error. (At first I thought it should say more likely but as I read further I understood it better)
Just one of those typos that sometimes sneaks through as it doesn’t get flagged by a grammar or a spell checker. I used to do a lot of writing and editing and had some things make it into print that had been proofread by myself dozens of times and a few others at least half a dozen times. Our brains are incredibly good at filling in the blanks when we know what something is supposed to say. But when it’s new… well that’s a different story. 😊
I'd be interested in running the same survey after our Public HC had appropriate funding from Feds and Provinces allocated those funds to PHC rather than hiving it off to private clinics/services.
A system that's been deliberately broken isn't going to work the way it was intended. Of course we lose faith.
A couple of thoughts on the myth of greedy Boomers: is it really that hard to believe that folks who have enjoyed the quality years of our nationalized healthcare system would vote for its continuation?
I am a reluctant Boomer who has always supported a hybrid healthcare system.
I don’t vacation in Tuscany, Florida, or anywhere else, for that matter.
The point I am trying to make goes something like this: for decades, Canadians have allowed the Liberal Party of Canada (and the Liberal Party of Ontario) to pit Canadian against Canadian for the Party’s own electoral success.
As conservatives, should we not be attempting to do just the opposite?
Definitely. We need (I'm an early GenX) need to do this by joining the youth in their political activities, using our financial resources (even buying a round of drinks is a big help) and centering young Canadians in our political discussions and approach to issues.
I think a lot of boomers would support hybrid if they understood that hybrid doesn’t equal US style healthcare. Parties like the NdP have removed all middle ground from the discussion and I think that’s the biggest issue. I also think provincial opposition shoulders most of this blame and not so much federal - though I agree that legacy media perpetuates it with what would be best described as propaganda. I opted out of legacy media over 15 years ago after being in some interviews and then seeing how the story was actually portrayed in an area where I have expert knowledge. (I’m Gen X, my parents are/were boomers.)
Hear! Hear! Wholly agree! Mixed system is the way to go. And I know boomers who abuse the system we have now while complaining the entire time. “Did you pay for your treatment?” I always ask,just to cut them off. It’s not a right! My tax dollars,year round, continue to pay for their care while they lounge in Florida sis months less a day.
Right on! And it’s not just younger Canadians who have lost faith in the system. As a senior who has twice waited- in Ontario- for MRI appointments for more than a year!! recently, I am totally in favour of a hybrid system. Outsource all diagnostic testing and reserve hospitals for those with serious and chronic illnesses. The current system is like sludge.
If you don't believe there isn't a bloated managerial class in the private sector, you have another thing coming.
Public or private, accountability is the issue.
And I've paid plenty of private sector service providers to piss me off with high dollar shitty services.
Make the Canada Health Act enforceable under the Criminal Code. Start jailing federal and provincial officials who undermine the system.
This doesn’t make any sense. Private anything tends to be more efficient and operate at lower cost but higher volumes for really anything. The way Canada does healthcare is broken and doubling down on forcing everything to be provided in the public system would only weaken it. We have a bloated managerial class who is comfortable and not pushed to be efficient in how public funds are used. Look at the money thrown in the healthcare system compared to the decreasing access and it becomes apparent - more money feeds management but doesn’t actually fix frontline delivery.
The reality is the system is failing so why not be losing faith. We live in Alberta and unfortunately we've had to try and access our health system over the last year. 23 months for an MRI, 6 months for a CT scan & 6 months for a detailed breast cancer scan. That's just for the tests then add months & years for treatments. We did private pay for the MRI - took 2 weeks now we're heading to Ontario for private pay knee surgery -less than a month after first contact. The system has definitely not been there when we needed it. My spouse & I each paid into the system for 40+ years but now the only way to get care in a timely manner is to abandon the system & seek out a private (very expensive) pay alternative.
It’s failing because the provincial government refuses to actually fund it.
If countries like France and Sweden with their mixed public-private health care systems rank as the best in the world, then lets copy them. I have long thought that the right wing government in Alberta with all their money and their interest in less government should have gone toe to toe with Ottawa decades ago over this issue and forced real change that would have benefited all Canadians. Hey we (Alberta UCP) still could!
“Why are younger Canadians less likely to support private health-care options? A few theories.”
Is this a typo?
Yes, it should say older. I had to read it 3 times to figure out the error. (At first I thought it should say more likely but as I read further I understood it better)
Thank you; I was afraid to ask.
Just one of those typos that sometimes sneaks through as it doesn’t get flagged by a grammar or a spell checker. I used to do a lot of writing and editing and had some things make it into print that had been proofread by myself dozens of times and a few others at least half a dozen times. Our brains are incredibly good at filling in the blanks when we know what something is supposed to say. But when it’s new… well that’s a different story. 😊
So true.
I'd be interested in running the same survey after our Public HC had appropriate funding from Feds and Provinces allocated those funds to PHC rather than hiving it off to private clinics/services.
A system that's been deliberately broken isn't going to work the way it was intended. Of course we lose faith.