Yes, I have heard that giving too much attention to the specific gymnastics of a toddler’s temper tantrum isn’t a great strategy over the long term. It seems like air time and general hand-wringing-type attention is one of this guy’s essential nutrients, like Diet Coke or whoppers. Starve him out. And thanks Matt for reflexively including facts, despite the fact that to some folks they don’t seem to matter any more.
Maybe this incident will finally convince Trump that taking any advice from Howard Lutnick, his idiotic Canada hating Commerce Secretary and consummate blowhard, is just not in his best interest.
I doubt that. On the other hand, Matthew Maroun might be left to reconsider whether whatever inducements he offered Lutnick and Trump were actually worth it in the face of the dismal results.
It’s time as Canadians that we define ourselves by our own standards and shared values, not by the likes of Donald Trump. Let’s move on and deal with these characters as the occasion warrants. Poilievre ignoring the US nut jobs is the right course of action. The Liberals are catching on to that as well.
That’s great and very comprehensive. Indeed most of these apply to all countries. Which of those are uniquely Canadian ie not found in other countries? And what does respect mean? And is tolerance also extended to non ethnic Canadians you might disagree with( apologies for the dangling participle?)? I don’t think Canadians like most countries have a shortage of values. It’s more a case of the values being more honored in the breach than the observance. I for one would love to see values and beliefs that are instinctively and universally followed and respected by all citizens/residents of any country. For instance the Ten Commandments are my personal choice but I would be hesitant to say that this is a value shared by all Canadians.
For sure! I don’t think many of those values line up with the PRC. Buy highly authoritative regimes like China, Russia, Iran, North Korea and others value power before people. My brief experience in Beijing, Shanghai and Xian is that ordinary citizens are decent and kind but fear of life and limb prevents those values from prevailing,
No, we must hang on the every word of the former longtime host of The Apprentice, report multiple front page stories in each of our newspapers about how This Time It's Really Different and his latest Truth Social post is really the harbinger of economic warfare if not outright annexation! He's also going to annex Australia because a dingo once looked at him wrong, and set off nukes on the moon to try to carve his own face there. Any day now. Remember to be really really scared all the time and forget about all the problems that existed before January 2025.
Seriously though, there is no answer to this kind of erratic insanity other than to tune it out, focus on fixing the many domestic issues and building as much wealth as possible in as many ways as possible, and waiting hopefully for an end to it. There is no "Trump answer". By anyone. The Liberals can use these events to scare people, Conservatives can't. They just aren't positioned that way, and they also aren't the government so they can't really do anything to seem to be "standing up to Trump". Yah that sucks because it hurts them in the polls, but theirs is the more rational position.
"...uncouple ourselves not just from this administration, but from the country..."
"...the Conservatives are going to need to figure out an answer to Trump..."
If there is no point in negotiating with Trump, why would the Conservative need a strategy for him? You two should explain what strategy you want the Conservatives to take. I am happy with their "verb-the-noun" platform. It is pragmatic.
And why don't the Liberals have to figure out an answer to Trump?
Agree with the thrust of the point I think you are making but I would slightly reframe things. I don't think the question the Conservatives need to find an answer to is, "how to deal with Trump?"
I think the question the Conservatives need to find an answer to is, "how can we persuade the Canadian electorate that we are a superior option to the Liberals when it comes to dealing with Trump so that we may form the government?" That is a much different question and the very real possibility exists that there simply is NOT an answer to that question (for a multitude of reasons that are as annoying as hell).
Carney doesn't seem to have tried negotiating, at least there was no discussion of the trade talks last summer, just passing deadlines.
Poilievre should make some moves to combat Canadian fentanyl and vet immigrants, then try to negotiate. It worked for Smith. That strategy won't win the election though, as most Canadians deny those problems.
So go back to the Conservative platform of a year ago: ignore Trump, fix Canada.
Matt makes some really strong points in his article, but insists on stubbing his toe at the end.
If the Conservatives perform the frequently advised pivot, they are allowing the media and the Liberal Party to set the agenda and the narrative of the next election.
There exists no pivot the Conservative Party can make, that doesn’t offer the election to the Liberals and their associates.
The Conservatives will continue to hammer the Liberals with cost of living, affordability, and economic competency concerns.
Does Matt not sense the irony in applauding Mr. Carney for ignoring Mr. Trump, and then roasting the Conservatives for not responding appropriately?
Trump has also shown he can't be trusted to stick to the terms of any deal, so there's no reason to even try to make a deal. Europe struck a bargain with Trump over tariff relief last year; when Trump decided he wanted to annex Greenland, he simply abrogated it with new tariffs on European countries for *daring* to oppose his attempt to seize territory from a European nation and erstwhile NATO ally.
This is nothing new for Trump: by the time he ran for president in 2016, he couldn't get a loan from any American financial institution because of his record of bankruptcies and defaults. Construction companies and trades would avoid working on his projects because he routinely stiffed them on payments. Now he's squandering the reputation of the United States with the same dishonest and dishonorable behaviour.
Finally, let's not forget that one reason Trump is so angry with Canada is that Canada has successfully resisted and outplayed him. Trump's effort to renegotiate NAFTA ended up being not much more than a rebrand as "USMCA" (See? Now the US comes first!!) Canada hasn't knuckled under to tariff threats, Canadians have been spurning American travel and products from politically-significant states, and despite Trump's insistence that "America doesn't need anything Canada has to offer", Americans seem to feel quite differently and trade has continued.
Just checked, no American Infantrymen on the corner.
Finally, an acknowledgement that paying attention to everything Mr. Trump says is worse than pointless, putting a fire out by dousing with kerosene.
The bridge is symbolic of the relationship, past and future, between the countries. Cultural and economic relationships align on longitudes, so state-provincial agreements make sense.
Yes, but then we’ll be dealing with a different smarmy puppet. There’s no reason to think the situation will be improved by a president with the same predatory drive minus the irrationality and dementia.
Commerce Secretary Epstein whispers in President Epstein’s ear and the gangster graft-grab kicks into high gear for a piece of the action from their Michigan friends. Maybe we should offer to name the bridge for him? Clearly Trump is peeved that the Nobel was “stolen” from him so he’s now angling for another Scandinavian award — Saab Salesman of the Year. Doesn’t’t matter which jet is better, we will never get a fair shake out CUSMA so might as well get ahead of the ball for some satisfaction before he craters our economy instead of just sobbing after.
What happens if "the news" in Canada just ignores him? No pictures, no quotes, no coverage? Are there any Canadian reporters allowed in the Press briefings at the White House? Are they asking the questions Canadians want answers to?
I’m not sure that’s true anymore. I definitely click less. I’m at the I don’t care about Trump, he’s an idiot stage of things. (I don’t care whether someone believes he’s criminal or not - I think he’s erratic with bad judgement and truth social posts in the middle of the night should stop being treated as White House announcements. Announce properly if it’s real, otherwise it’s just ambien ramblings or some such thing.
In general Trump articles don’t seem to have a particular lift or drag effect. A lift is possible if it’s breaking news and very topical. But it’s not a major plus or minus.
My grampa was decades ahead on the "STFU" front: he connected a wire to his TV volume control, he ran the wire across the living room carpet to his couch. When a stupid ad came up that he wanted to ignore he simply pushed the button and all went silent.
Sad baby loves money the most, despite the inability to make any, earn any, make a coherent deal. Someone should stuff a diaper in his mouth to save his country, lol.
Yes, I have heard that giving too much attention to the specific gymnastics of a toddler’s temper tantrum isn’t a great strategy over the long term. It seems like air time and general hand-wringing-type attention is one of this guy’s essential nutrients, like Diet Coke or whoppers. Starve him out. And thanks Matt for reflexively including facts, despite the fact that to some folks they don’t seem to matter any more.
Agree! Alert Laura Babcock !! 🙄
Thank you, Line, for this daily dose of sanity.
Maybe this incident will finally convince Trump that taking any advice from Howard Lutnick, his idiotic Canada hating Commerce Secretary and consummate blowhard, is just not in his best interest.
I doubt that. On the other hand, Matthew Maroun might be left to reconsider whether whatever inducements he offered Lutnick and Trump were actually worth it in the face of the dismal results.
It’s time as Canadians that we define ourselves by our own standards and shared values, not by the likes of Donald Trump. Let’s move on and deal with these characters as the occasion warrants. Poilievre ignoring the US nut jobs is the right course of action. The Liberals are catching on to that as well.
That’s great and very comprehensive. Indeed most of these apply to all countries. Which of those are uniquely Canadian ie not found in other countries? And what does respect mean? And is tolerance also extended to non ethnic Canadians you might disagree with( apologies for the dangling participle?)? I don’t think Canadians like most countries have a shortage of values. It’s more a case of the values being more honored in the breach than the observance. I for one would love to see values and beliefs that are instinctively and universally followed and respected by all citizens/residents of any country. For instance the Ten Commandments are my personal choice but I would be hesitant to say that this is a value shared by all Canadians.
While I agree with you I’m still waiting to see someone enunciate what those shared values are. One or two would be nice. Barn raising bees?
Included in some of our shared values are:
- human rights
- gender equality
- equality before
the law
-respect for diversity
- tolerance for ethnic Canadians
-inclusion
-cultural respect
-indigenous respect
-social harmony ,peace, personal safety
-nature appreciation
- unity alongside of plurality
- our sense of belonging to a great country
...perhaps it would be an interesting exercise to see just how well these values line up with our new "strategic partner", China.
Does anyone in Canada care?
For sure! I don’t think many of those values line up with the PRC. Buy highly authoritative regimes like China, Russia, Iran, North Korea and others value power before people. My brief experience in Beijing, Shanghai and Xian is that ordinary citizens are decent and kind but fear of life and limb prevents those values from prevailing,
No, we must hang on the every word of the former longtime host of The Apprentice, report multiple front page stories in each of our newspapers about how This Time It's Really Different and his latest Truth Social post is really the harbinger of economic warfare if not outright annexation! He's also going to annex Australia because a dingo once looked at him wrong, and set off nukes on the moon to try to carve his own face there. Any day now. Remember to be really really scared all the time and forget about all the problems that existed before January 2025.
Seriously though, there is no answer to this kind of erratic insanity other than to tune it out, focus on fixing the many domestic issues and building as much wealth as possible in as many ways as possible, and waiting hopefully for an end to it. There is no "Trump answer". By anyone. The Liberals can use these events to scare people, Conservatives can't. They just aren't positioned that way, and they also aren't the government so they can't really do anything to seem to be "standing up to Trump". Yah that sucks because it hurts them in the polls, but theirs is the more rational position.
"...uncouple ourselves not just from this administration, but from the country..."
"...the Conservatives are going to need to figure out an answer to Trump..."
If there is no point in negotiating with Trump, why would the Conservative need a strategy for him? You two should explain what strategy you want the Conservatives to take. I am happy with their "verb-the-noun" platform. It is pragmatic.
And why don't the Liberals have to figure out an answer to Trump?
Agree with the thrust of the point I think you are making but I would slightly reframe things. I don't think the question the Conservatives need to find an answer to is, "how to deal with Trump?"
I think the question the Conservatives need to find an answer to is, "how can we persuade the Canadian electorate that we are a superior option to the Liberals when it comes to dealing with Trump so that we may form the government?" That is a much different question and the very real possibility exists that there simply is NOT an answer to that question (for a multitude of reasons that are as annoying as hell).
Carney doesn't seem to have tried negotiating, at least there was no discussion of the trade talks last summer, just passing deadlines.
Poilievre should make some moves to combat Canadian fentanyl and vet immigrants, then try to negotiate. It worked for Smith. That strategy won't win the election though, as most Canadians deny those problems.
So go back to the Conservative platform of a year ago: ignore Trump, fix Canada.
Secretly offer Trump a better trade deal if he shuts the ever loving hell up for a few months.
That would be good, but CBC would run "Trump says nothing, feared dead" articles every day.
Matt makes some really strong points in his article, but insists on stubbing his toe at the end.
If the Conservatives perform the frequently advised pivot, they are allowing the media and the Liberal Party to set the agenda and the narrative of the next election.
There exists no pivot the Conservative Party can make, that doesn’t offer the election to the Liberals and their associates.
The Conservatives will continue to hammer the Liberals with cost of living, affordability, and economic competency concerns.
Does Matt not sense the irony in applauding Mr. Carney for ignoring Mr. Trump, and then roasting the Conservatives for not responding appropriately?
Trump has also shown he can't be trusted to stick to the terms of any deal, so there's no reason to even try to make a deal. Europe struck a bargain with Trump over tariff relief last year; when Trump decided he wanted to annex Greenland, he simply abrogated it with new tariffs on European countries for *daring* to oppose his attempt to seize territory from a European nation and erstwhile NATO ally.
This is nothing new for Trump: by the time he ran for president in 2016, he couldn't get a loan from any American financial institution because of his record of bankruptcies and defaults. Construction companies and trades would avoid working on his projects because he routinely stiffed them on payments. Now he's squandering the reputation of the United States with the same dishonest and dishonorable behaviour.
Finally, let's not forget that one reason Trump is so angry with Canada is that Canada has successfully resisted and outplayed him. Trump's effort to renegotiate NAFTA ended up being not much more than a rebrand as "USMCA" (See? Now the US comes first!!) Canada hasn't knuckled under to tariff threats, Canadians have been spurning American travel and products from politically-significant states, and despite Trump's insistence that "America doesn't need anything Canada has to offer", Americans seem to feel quite differently and trade has continued.
Just checked, no American Infantrymen on the corner.
Finally, an acknowledgement that paying attention to everything Mr. Trump says is worse than pointless, putting a fire out by dousing with kerosene.
The bridge is symbolic of the relationship, past and future, between the countries. Cultural and economic relationships align on longitudes, so state-provincial agreements make sense.
Mr. Hockey will get his bridge.
maybe, lol. Every time he's provoked he worsens his position by shitting the bed.
Trump is a fucking idiot. So is his entire cabinet. I hope the US can save itself and drag every single one of those assholes into a courtroom.
The Olympics are fabulous. The true joy of sport, displayed through extraordinary camerawork.
Every day that passes is one day closer to Trumps death day. Wait for it. ❤️
I wake up every morning hoping for good news.
Yes, but then we’ll be dealing with a different smarmy puppet. There’s no reason to think the situation will be improved by a president with the same predatory drive minus the irrationality and dementia.
Who will vote “Republican” again after this shit show. The Dems could have an absolute majority in everything after the next general election.
Really sound good advice. We only feed into his insanity when we respond. Do not reward the toddler having a tantrum.
Commerce Secretary Epstein whispers in President Epstein’s ear and the gangster graft-grab kicks into high gear for a piece of the action from their Michigan friends. Maybe we should offer to name the bridge for him? Clearly Trump is peeved that the Nobel was “stolen” from him so he’s now angling for another Scandinavian award — Saab Salesman of the Year. Doesn’t’t matter which jet is better, we will never get a fair shake out CUSMA so might as well get ahead of the ball for some satisfaction before he craters our economy instead of just sobbing after.
What happens if "the news" in Canada just ignores him? No pictures, no quotes, no coverage? Are there any Canadian reporters allowed in the Press briefings at the White House? Are they asking the questions Canadians want answers to?
They can't quit Trump. He brings all the clicks.
I’m not sure that’s true anymore. I definitely click less. I’m at the I don’t care about Trump, he’s an idiot stage of things. (I don’t care whether someone believes he’s criminal or not - I think he’s erratic with bad judgement and truth social posts in the middle of the night should stop being treated as White House announcements. Announce properly if it’s real, otherwise it’s just ambien ramblings or some such thing.
In general Trump articles don’t seem to have a particular lift or drag effect. A lift is possible if it’s breaking news and very topical. But it’s not a major plus or minus.
The Line readers might not be representative. We are the people that want more Star Trek themed articles to click on.
The best people.
He also keeps the government in power that keeps their subsidies a-flowing!
My grampa was decades ahead on the "STFU" front: he connected a wire to his TV volume control, he ran the wire across the living room carpet to his couch. When a stupid ad came up that he wanted to ignore he simply pushed the button and all went silent.
Sad baby loves money the most, despite the inability to make any, earn any, make a coherent deal. Someone should stuff a diaper in his mouth to save his country, lol.