The NDP no longer work for the working class or Trade unions so they have already lost the support from the majority of trades all together, as well as Jerry Dias. The union makes these workers pay to keep the union executives in the lifestyle they are accustomed to while they purposely destroy their well paying jobs. Same with the NDP and Trudeau. They say they will make sure no one is left behind. It’s a little late for that as many have already lost their jobs, their homes not to mention whole communities in many cases. Not to worry though as the NDP and Trudeau have their backs! What a joke! It’s so pathetic and such a lie just as what they used to put in their Emergencies Act against those very people. The ones who lost the most before, during, and through this whole inhumane vaccine mandate and the never ending pandemic. They care only about those who think like them, talk like them, and act like them. Both Singh and Trudeau need a lesson in humility and ethics and how anyone can support either is against human rights (Australia’s Human Rights Council ruled that Mandating vaccines were against Human Rights). Here in Canada those standing by them and forcing them on Canadians are considered virtuous. Just like bringing in riot squads on those who already lost the most was cheered on by the laptop class. What a Country. So if Jag meet Singh says he is behind unions and Canadian workers, it’s an outright lie. He is against human rights and trade unions just like Trudeau is.
OK, so you're really good at complaining. How about offering some solutions? The pandemic isn't over either. And I see you're still ignoring the reality that no one was forced to get vaccinated.
Vanity Fair article is quite interesting. Doesn't have a lot of facts, but makes a good read. I still don't think it matters, because it won't change reality.
In the Pfizer papers just released it shows they have known about natural immunity all along but somehow it’s not applicable to a vaccination.. Change that. Mandates force people to get vaccinated. You can play with words, like Trudeau, all you like but it does not change the reality that mandates are wrong.
We do not need more Government, regulations, or taxes. We need less. Regulations that impede economic viability and harm Provinces and peoples lives and inflict damage with no compensation , and it must end. Especially where it’s not Federal jurisdiction. They need to stay in their own lane instead of interfering where they should not be. Both the NDP and Liberals cause massive unemployment, high taxation and lately the end of small business, independent thought, and freedom.
We have a Constitution and Charter of rights and freedoms, so let’s follow it as it’s written, not the way the progressives want to interpret it. Again the religion, new ideological dogma, is its replacement, must remain outside politics and stay in the halls of their worship.
I don't believe anyone, anywhere has denied that natural immunity exists. Where COVID is concerned, it sure seems like there's a high percentage of people unvaccinated in the ICU when compared to their percentage of the overall population whose natural immunity didn't work out so well. Pretending that COVID doesn't exist, and everything is fine doesn't seem like a sound strategy in light of a global health emergency. That applies to the Charter too. Social responsibility should still be a thing. They had a choice. They made it; they wear the consequences.
Alberta has about $30 billion in orphan oil wells to clean up...at taxpayer expense because the regulations that were in place didn't make any demands on businesses to clean up their messes. Regulations need to address that as much as anything. Talk about lack of compensation....
We're $1 trillion in debt federally. Any tax cut of any kind would be grossly irresponsible. Increased taxes on profits are essential. We've already spent our kid's future...it's long overdue to start addressing that. Deficit financing is a convenient political lie.
There is not enough difference between the NDP and Liberals to matter. The nightmare scenario for me is if the Conservatives repeat their mistake of the last two elections and choose another “blue tie liberal” autocrat like Charest or the like. Then if you’re a worker bee, farmer, westerner, Christian or other believer in public morality, there will be no party left to represent your views.
You had my attention until you threw in Christian or "believer in public morality". Church and state need to be separate. Catholicism, evangelical Christianity and Islam are about nothing more than oppression and control; humanity's worst inventions. faith is a wonderful thing...until you impose it on someone else; then it's abuse. You only need one simple rule to live by
Did not mean to imply that any particular faith would be imposed on anyone else. My only point was that moral people could find themselves without anyone to represent them. And the golden rule is fine. There should be some semblance of morality in governments. Banning hijabs while keeping a crucifix in the provincial House of Parliament, and fining egg farmers for writing a roadside sign in English, or suddenly criminalizing 200k law abiding gun owners via a secret cabinet meeting, is not particularly golden
Church and state are seperate in Canada Dave. You can thank the earliest Puritans from England who landed in the New World for it too. They were rejected by the state church and laid out the pattern of seperation of church and state on this side of the pond.
There is not a state church in Canada, sure, but this isn't a founding principle of our democracy.
Consider: Catholic school boards, tuition subsidies for various church seminaries -7 at UofT alone, saying the Lord's Prayer in school or in different elected bodies -this still happens here and there.
We are no longer a Christian society, but some of the old features of this society have stuck around. Scholars discuss this as secularizing. As a result, I believe we are now a secular state.
However it seems many describe and believe in this idea of a separation of church and state. And live as if this were the case. If every one believes this, maybe at some point it becomes true.
Hi, it’s Dean from Brantford (not in Brantford). I am 59, have a graduate degree from McMaster and never voted NDP. Yes White Farm and Massey Fergusson left decades ago so I do not understand why the generational voting pattern. MP Derek Blackburn was well respected for years but alas, he too is long gone.
Don’t want to “badmouth” my hometown since they are Blue, provincially. But honestly, any combo of socialist Red or Orange is doing no favours to anyone. Go figure.
In my childish dreams, politicians study sciences, the economy, and culture, choose policies that they project will bring the greatest good to the greatest number, then go out to sell that vision.
Then this guys comes along and reminds me how they really think: what narrative will suck in the greatest number, playing to their fears and fantasies?
Just a step from that, to selling new fears and fantasies, the better to take advantage of them. Reading "savvy" political calculus stories always makes me a little ill in the tummy.
When the Conservatives slid over to the middle to get more votes the Liberals moved further over to the left to catch the ride on the proverbial pendulum, which currently is moving to the left post Harper. They were already close to the NDP so this move to align policy between the two parties is really 2/3's of a step for NDP and 1/3 of a step for the Liberals. The bigger guy always has more power in an agreement. When Trudeau retires will the two parties merge or will the next leader move back to the middle? That depends what happens to the Conservatives post their leadership vote. If they split between little c and big C then all bets are off and the Liberals can go back to their natural middle position and leave the NDP. If the Conservatives maintain unity then its Liberal / NDP for the next couple of decades. This is far more about power than policy.
The reality is the NDP had no other options except support the Liberals. I can see them becoming one party since neither can break their voter cap without getting it from each other. This does not help the conservatives with their voter problem.
I think you nailed it. This is a precursor to a merger. It could send some NDP voters Green (if they can get their act together federally; in Ontario, they already have the best party leader) but this should be the Conservative's biggest nightmare.....and a strong message to whomever the next leader is about what it will take to get elected.
The NDP no longer work for the working class or Trade unions so they have already lost the support from the majority of trades all together, as well as Jerry Dias. The union makes these workers pay to keep the union executives in the lifestyle they are accustomed to while they purposely destroy their well paying jobs. Same with the NDP and Trudeau. They say they will make sure no one is left behind. It’s a little late for that as many have already lost their jobs, their homes not to mention whole communities in many cases. Not to worry though as the NDP and Trudeau have their backs! What a joke! It’s so pathetic and such a lie just as what they used to put in their Emergencies Act against those very people. The ones who lost the most before, during, and through this whole inhumane vaccine mandate and the never ending pandemic. They care only about those who think like them, talk like them, and act like them. Both Singh and Trudeau need a lesson in humility and ethics and how anyone can support either is against human rights (Australia’s Human Rights Council ruled that Mandating vaccines were against Human Rights). Here in Canada those standing by them and forcing them on Canadians are considered virtuous. Just like bringing in riot squads on those who already lost the most was cheered on by the laptop class. What a Country. So if Jag meet Singh says he is behind unions and Canadian workers, it’s an outright lie. He is against human rights and trade unions just like Trudeau is.
OK, so you're really good at complaining. How about offering some solutions? The pandemic isn't over either. And I see you're still ignoring the reality that no one was forced to get vaccinated.
Vanity Fair article is quite interesting. Doesn't have a lot of facts, but makes a good read. I still don't think it matters, because it won't change reality.
In the Pfizer papers just released it shows they have known about natural immunity all along but somehow it’s not applicable to a vaccination.. Change that. Mandates force people to get vaccinated. You can play with words, like Trudeau, all you like but it does not change the reality that mandates are wrong.
We do not need more Government, regulations, or taxes. We need less. Regulations that impede economic viability and harm Provinces and peoples lives and inflict damage with no compensation , and it must end. Especially where it’s not Federal jurisdiction. They need to stay in their own lane instead of interfering where they should not be. Both the NDP and Liberals cause massive unemployment, high taxation and lately the end of small business, independent thought, and freedom.
We have a Constitution and Charter of rights and freedoms, so let’s follow it as it’s written, not the way the progressives want to interpret it. Again the religion, new ideological dogma, is its replacement, must remain outside politics and stay in the halls of their worship.
I don't believe anyone, anywhere has denied that natural immunity exists. Where COVID is concerned, it sure seems like there's a high percentage of people unvaccinated in the ICU when compared to their percentage of the overall population whose natural immunity didn't work out so well. Pretending that COVID doesn't exist, and everything is fine doesn't seem like a sound strategy in light of a global health emergency. That applies to the Charter too. Social responsibility should still be a thing. They had a choice. They made it; they wear the consequences.
Alberta has about $30 billion in orphan oil wells to clean up...at taxpayer expense because the regulations that were in place didn't make any demands on businesses to clean up their messes. Regulations need to address that as much as anything. Talk about lack of compensation....
We're $1 trillion in debt federally. Any tax cut of any kind would be grossly irresponsible. Increased taxes on profits are essential. We've already spent our kid's future...it's long overdue to start addressing that. Deficit financing is a convenient political lie.
As for unemployment, read at your leisure. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/jobs-march-canada-1.6413073
You should explain your philosophy on religion to the C's. They still don't get it.
There is not enough difference between the NDP and Liberals to matter. The nightmare scenario for me is if the Conservatives repeat their mistake of the last two elections and choose another “blue tie liberal” autocrat like Charest or the like. Then if you’re a worker bee, farmer, westerner, Christian or other believer in public morality, there will be no party left to represent your views.
You had my attention until you threw in Christian or "believer in public morality". Church and state need to be separate. Catholicism, evangelical Christianity and Islam are about nothing more than oppression and control; humanity's worst inventions. faith is a wonderful thing...until you impose it on someone else; then it's abuse. You only need one simple rule to live by
Did not mean to imply that any particular faith would be imposed on anyone else. My only point was that moral people could find themselves without anyone to represent them. And the golden rule is fine. There should be some semblance of morality in governments. Banning hijabs while keeping a crucifix in the provincial House of Parliament, and fining egg farmers for writing a roadside sign in English, or suddenly criminalizing 200k law abiding gun owners via a secret cabinet meeting, is not particularly golden
Could not agree more.
Church and state are seperate in Canada Dave. You can thank the earliest Puritans from England who landed in the New World for it too. They were rejected by the state church and laid out the pattern of seperation of church and state on this side of the pond.
Tell that to the evangelical arm of the C's. In the US, that is almost a figment of the past
You mentioned Canada, I answered your queery. There is no state church in North America.
There is not a state church in Canada, sure, but this isn't a founding principle of our democracy.
Consider: Catholic school boards, tuition subsidies for various church seminaries -7 at UofT alone, saying the Lord's Prayer in school or in different elected bodies -this still happens here and there.
We are no longer a Christian society, but some of the old features of this society have stuck around. Scholars discuss this as secularizing. As a result, I believe we are now a secular state.
However it seems many describe and believe in this idea of a separation of church and state. And live as if this were the case. If every one believes this, maybe at some point it becomes true.
Hi, it’s Dean from Brantford (not in Brantford). I am 59, have a graduate degree from McMaster and never voted NDP. Yes White Farm and Massey Fergusson left decades ago so I do not understand why the generational voting pattern. MP Derek Blackburn was well respected for years but alas, he too is long gone.
Don’t want to “badmouth” my hometown since they are Blue, provincially. But honestly, any combo of socialist Red or Orange is doing no favours to anyone. Go figure.
I think if the C's had delivered any form of fiscal responsibility when in power, they'd have a leg to stand on. They don't.
I think I’m a cross between a Dean and Marisa then. I think the next election should be VOIP: Vote Out Incumbent Politicians. They were all failures…
That's every Canadian election. We never vote people in :)
True that
In my childish dreams, politicians study sciences, the economy, and culture, choose policies that they project will bring the greatest good to the greatest number, then go out to sell that vision.
Then this guys comes along and reminds me how they really think: what narrative will suck in the greatest number, playing to their fears and fantasies?
Just a step from that, to selling new fears and fantasies, the better to take advantage of them. Reading "savvy" political calculus stories always makes me a little ill in the tummy.
When the Conservatives slid over to the middle to get more votes the Liberals moved further over to the left to catch the ride on the proverbial pendulum, which currently is moving to the left post Harper. They were already close to the NDP so this move to align policy between the two parties is really 2/3's of a step for NDP and 1/3 of a step for the Liberals. The bigger guy always has more power in an agreement. When Trudeau retires will the two parties merge or will the next leader move back to the middle? That depends what happens to the Conservatives post their leadership vote. If they split between little c and big C then all bets are off and the Liberals can go back to their natural middle position and leave the NDP. If the Conservatives maintain unity then its Liberal / NDP for the next couple of decades. This is far more about power than policy.
I couldn't relate less to Dean or Marisa. Then again, I have never even considered voting Liberal or NDP.
The reality is the NDP had no other options except support the Liberals. I can see them becoming one party since neither can break their voter cap without getting it from each other. This does not help the conservatives with their voter problem.
I think you nailed it. This is a precursor to a merger. It could send some NDP voters Green (if they can get their act together federally; in Ontario, they already have the best party leader) but this should be the Conservative's biggest nightmare.....and a strong message to whomever the next leader is about what it will take to get elected.