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Russil Wvong's avatar

Watching Jen's comments on how in a parliamentary system, it's the elected MPs making up the party caucus that should choose the party leader (as in Australia), as opposed to having a US-style presidential primary race bolted on top. I think that's exactly right. Dale Smith talks about this in "The Unbroken Machine."

The Liberal Party ended up with a US-style gridlock between two sides, both elected: Trudeau (elected leader by the Liberal membership at large) and the Liberal caucus. As in the US when there's gridlock, the result is paralysis and drift.

Politicians are just people: you can't rely on them to make the correct decision all the time. Sometimes you need to replace the leader even if they don't want to go.

I think Trudeau and his advisors took the wrong lesson from the Chretien-Martin succession. Their conclusion was that the top priority was preventing intraparty conflict. I think the actual lesson is that you need an institutional mechanism (like the Australian leadership spill or Michael Chong's Reform Act) to remove a leader, so that it's quick and decisive instead of a protracted and messy power struggle. Ultimately, you can't lead if nobody's willing to follow. All Trudeau could do was delay the inevitable, making it uglier and more painful for everyone.

I'm looking forward to getting back to the trade war.

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Clarke's avatar

Jen's comment was a huge eye-opener for me. I've always been vaguely confused and unsettled by how Canada chooses the leaders of its political parties, and to hear Jen lay it out like that was a lightning bolt: we're screwing it up.

Also, not for nothing but we're not even doing primaries right. If we want American-style primaries, the way those work is that you publicly register your party affiliation and then vote at a local polling station, for free.

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Russil Wvong's avatar

I'd highly recommend Dale Smith's "The Unbroken Machine." Choosing a leader by a vote of the entire party membership, instead of the parliamentary caucus, goes back about 100 years (when the Liberals chose Laurier), giving it the appearance of a solid tradition. But it still weakens the accountability of the leader to the caucus, even though this accountability is impossible to remove entirely (as Trudeau just found out).

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Dean Bowman's avatar

A smart man. He agrees with both women

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E.P. Thomas's avatar

Can the Interference report be tabled if Parliament is prorogued?

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Penny Leifson's avatar

Please stop talking over each other! It may be “fun” for Jen and Michelle, but it’s annoying as hell!

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Chris's avatar

I'd love to hear MP Rempel Garner's thoughts on what a successful first 100 days of policy would look like under a Conservative majority government when she joins. Thanks guys.

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Davey J's avatar

Thanks for the broadcast ! Getting Michelle on was great , nice to get sitting MPs in on the discussion

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KenY's avatar

The interaction between Jen and Michelle was great. It prompted and energized Michelle to passionately articulate and defend why the CPC election platform is resonating with average Canadians. But I also agree with the point that Jen was alluding to that we need to recognize that the depth of the hole that the Liberal government has dug us into should not be underestimated

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KenY's avatar

Nope. Having a plan and reading the writing on the wall is too much of an intellectual barrier for a narcissistic personality type like JT.

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Michael Scott's avatar

Assuming the Conservatives win and they "axe the tax", will it have any effect on prices?(because as the Bank of Canada has told us: carbon taxation has almost no impact on inflation; and companies can just eat the extra margin and pricing is noncompetitive and nontransparent). What happens next?

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Penny Leifson's avatar

Mark Carney is a climate crazy who aligns with ending fossil fuel use.

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E.P. Thomas's avatar

I think it is healthy for two people to have passionate conversations and enjoy them and still be friends

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Donna H's avatar

I have personal feedback to Jen and Matt so will send it via email.

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Bruce Bourque's avatar

Will this be recorded & available on YouTube later? Tks.

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Matt Gurney's avatar

yes

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Una O’Reilly's avatar

please take note of my comment above.

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justinjam's avatar

One thing about the Westminster political system that I don't like is that heads of state remain focused on maintaining power above all else. In a republican system like the US, second term presidents focus on their legacy - what they are leaving for the country - in the back half of their final couple of years.

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Heulwen Rankin's avatar

Our head of state is unelected

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CoolPro's avatar

Great live event! All guests were great, but Jen's exchange with Michelle will go down as historic Line Lore! Outstanding 🔥

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Reg Stowell's avatar

Loved Jen and Michelle. Unfortunately I was involved with a local non-profit during your live broadcast and wasn't able to watch/listen until Tuesday morning. I have been glued to my computer during the whole broadcast.

The only negative comment I have is about Matt's beer. There are some wonderful small Canadian brewers that are making fantastic brews these days. I particularly love the IPAs

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Kristian's avatar

I’m a bit late to the party, but I thought it was a great stream. I think you guys are doing solid work, and think my subscription is the best money I spend every year… apart from my booze budget.

Matt, a lot of Tuborg Gold is made in Izmir Turkey, which I only discovered while in Turkey drinking Tuborg.

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