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Anonymous Mongoose's avatar

There is one inconvenient fact that this article omits: never has an outright majority be won through floor crossings and it would behoove us to investigate what those floor crossers were promised for them to switch, because those backroom deals stink to high heaven.

If they have nothing to hide, the liberals should welcome these investigations.

I think we should be outright worried about his implementation of globalist policies as outline in his own book: return of the carbon tax, no more pipelines, more liberticide laws, etc.

ericanadian's avatar

Emerson flipped for a cabinet position. I think Stronarch did too. That’s essentially a bribe to me, so why is this different? The MPs that flipped have all seemed to do so because of disagreements with current party leadership. Jeneroux was set to retire before deciding to stay on and flip instead.

KRM's avatar

Michael Ma was elected only months earlier, had no public (or apparent private) beef with party leadership, and notoriously attended both parties' Christmas party. Nothing suspicious there...

Prior governments weren't actively recruiting for a majority. This has never happened anywhere in Canada at any level before and our journalistic class is refusing to make that distinction.

Geoff Olynyk's avatar

So look I say this as someone who should have been a winnable convert to the CPC in 2025 (early 40s dad who hated the Trudeau era of identity politics). I didn’t so much vote for the LPC in 2025 as I voted against the CPC — specifically Poilievre’s support for the Ottawa trucker occupation, and his refusal to, frankly, be angry enough at US threats to our sovereignty and to show some backbone even at economic cost to us.

That said: Carney has been in for a year now and nothing has moved on permitting. And Poilievre is sounding a lot more reasonable. The trucker convoy memory is receding into the past, PP on Rogan refused to say anything against Canada on foreign soil, etc.

I think the issue now is that it’s hard for the CPC to differentiate themselves. On all the cultural stuff — support for the military, backing off on youth gender transitions, backing off on attacking oil and gas as a moral issue — Carney is already squarely in 90s Liberal / Progressive Conservative territory.

How best for CPC to differentiate themselves? The main one for me is on resource project permitting. It’s Carney’s main weakness. Nothing is yet moving in Canada! But: I think PP’s people know well that it’s a high-voltage wire because of the First Nations issue. That’s why they aren’t saying any specifics and why Canadians are letting Carney get away with basically zero progress on permitting.

Sean Cummings's avatar

For me, Carney is riding high in the polls because he doesn't have a likeability problem. Carney is likeable if not boring as hell and likeable. Also, the CPC has a leadership challenge happening in real time, I think, with Jamil Jivani.

PP has been on Ottawa for two decades and during that time he was an attack dog. People remember that kind of thing. You do not get a second change to make a good first impression. What PP is doing now he should have been doing from the get go.

It's nice to see the human side. It's nice to see that dog in the alley wagging its tail. That dog might just attack you and PP might go into his attack dog mode.

David's avatar

Are you asking him to pay nice? We have a government acting in a fascist near communist way. Carney is not anything Canadian, he continues to say he is European, continues to push WEF / Davos agenda, continues to get close to the country he said is Canada's greatest security threat. Finally he went out of his way to ensure Canada would not get a trade deal with US, costing billions of dollars and thousands of jobs.

Finally, Carney saying Canada would not get involved in Iran and yet he signed onto keeping the Strait of Hormuz open .. that is getting involved in foreign soil.

As to the Freedom Convoy, fading? Carney is appealing to the Supreme Court about his government over reach! Try reading bills C 2, 8, 9 .. these impact Canadians directly.

Bob Reynolds's avatar

All quite correct if not very palatable to Conservatives. What's harder to accept is the support that Carney has despite having simply carried on with the Trudeau agenda. Investment has dried up, productivity continues to fall, the military is still as lame as ever, regulations continue to strangle infrastructure and resource development all while deficits continue to pile up. We have bad government and the Conservatives seem powerless to oppose it.

Ross Huntley's avatar

Floor crossing may be common but I would argue that it is not principled. When the member ran, the ticket he ran on represents the expectations of the people who voted for him. Flipping may indicate that when he got into the seat things were not as they seemed but more likely means that there was more personal opportunity on the other side. The blandish statements by those who switched seems to prove this.

Regardless of which way the flip occurred, we are entitled to be critical.

andy mayr's avatar

This oponiom piece isn’t analysis , it’s pure partisan fan-fiction dressed up alike “sports metaphors.”

Scott bends over backwards to defend Mark Carney while pretending that anyone who questions backroom political manoeuvring is just whining. That’s cheerleading for the Liberal Party of Canada.

And the hypocrisy is wild. The piece lectures Pierre Poilievre about how Parliament works ,like Canadians are too dumb to notice (they are however easily manipulated and lower educated)when power is being stitched together through defections and political deals instead of voters. Apparently calling that out is “loser talk,” but defending it is somehow noble? Please !

The attempt to rewrite history is just as bad. When Stephen Harper took heat for proroguing Parliament or putting David Emerson straight into cabinet after crossing the floor, the media screamed about democratic norms for months. Now that the Liberals benefit, suddenly it’s all “perfectly legitimate” and anyone who questions it is bitter. That’s not consistency again that’s pure bias.

What this opinion piece really says is simple.

If your side gains power through political manoeuvring, it’s strategy; if the other side complains, they’re losers. That’s not a serious argument. It’s just lazy spin trying to normalize whatever helps Carney stay in power.

KRM's avatar

There's a meme going around that basically says, imagine your reaction if Donald Trump was facing a Congress that was a few seats short of a Republican majority, and spent millions on certain districts to lure enough Democrat congressmen to switch parties to put him over the top. Yah. Imagine the Globe and Mail's reaction, and the knots they would twist themselves into to distinguish it from what is happening here.

David Lindsay's avatar

You sound exactly like the Conservatives he described in the article. There's a reason the Conservatives lost, and they kept him as leader anyway...proving they haven't learned from their mistakes, going back to Andrew Scheer.

KRM's avatar

Ah, another long form version of "it's technically allowed so shut the hell up!" Popular with pro-Liberal apologists in the Toronto Star and Globe and Mail whenever Mark Carney absorbs another MP who mysteriously disavow every word they ever previously said, sometimes as recently as a few days previous, to join his government.

It's clear we've gone from quaint Westminster tradition to major loophole that's being abused to entrench government power. Governments, even minority ones, have power, money, and leverage that only they can wield, and can direct enough funds either legitimately or otherwise, to "convince" really any number of MP's to go their way.

Sure there have been floor crossings before. Most of these are meaningless historical footnotes. It is this "luring" that is largely unprecedented, both because we've seldom had a government this close to a majority, and because arguably previous governments have been more constrained by personal shame and a press more willing to call out slimy bullshit rather than excuse it. Given enough funds "directed to their riding" and a willingness to borrow and spend endlessly, I posit that any government could cover really any gap in support at this point now that we've opened Pandora's Box.

I'm sick of the particularly Canadian "it's always been this way so it can never change" bullshit. This only gets applied to conventions that support government, everything else is up for grabs. Other countries change how government does things when it's clear there is room for abuse. At the very least these defectors should be forced to sit as independents for the remainder of their terms.

And no I don't want Conservatives to form a majority this way either. Unlike Liberals they would be held to account by our journalistic friends for this slimy tactic and pay the price when up for re-election.

Michael Edwards's avatar

Just because one can do something doesn't mean one should. Parliamentarians are labeled "honourable" in the vain hope that they will behave honourably. Crossing the floor is a offence against voters, it is a show of contempt for the wishes of the voter. It is sleazy behaviour and it makes a mockery of the democratic process.

Scott Stinson is trying to put lipstick on a pig in the hope that it will not appear to be a pig.

Susan the Scot's avatar

So, your advice is to stay schtum and oh well it’s all legitimate and Harper did it …Oh boy. Excuse me while I scurry around looking for my Conservative membership card. I’m preparing to vote Blue more than ever.

ericanadian's avatar

I think he’s just saying its not a functional way to drive support. Some people might care about this, but they’re most likely voting Conservative or NDP already. I think you’d be hard pressed to find someone who could vote either way deciding to switch their vote based solely on this and airtime and campaign dollars being finite things, there is an opportunity cost to spending a lot of effort on this issue.

KRM's avatar

Put another way, the opposition should roll over and just passively accept that the government bought a majority government in a totally unique and unprecedented way.

A government with a major history of democratic backsliding and underhanded tactics like paying off the media with hundreds of millions in subsidies, and literally everything they did between Trudeau announcing resignation and Mark Carney being (re?) elected in April 2025.

"Oh well, it's all technically allowed so can't complain about it. Shrug shoulders. The media aren't objecting so why should anyone?"

And the fucked up part is that the article is correct that Conservatives are in a way benefiting from these defections. These lessen the chance of an immediate election in which they would be wiped out because the world has gone insane, up is down, and the real issues the country faces are drowned out by noise, neck-deep propaganda, and emotional nonsense. It still doesn't make majority-by-floor-crossing any more ethically legitimate.

David Lindsay's avatar

It's almost like you can't see, or accept, that the world has changed completely since January 20, 2025. It has.

David's avatar

Let's be very frank here. This is not the Liberal Party of yesterday .. that being 15+ years ago. That party was center- left. The current incarnation is FAR left, it eclipses the NDP. Pretending otherwise is completely naive. This party has a WEF / Davos agenda, led by a leader who continues to say he is NOT Canadian but European. His goals are easily found within his book Values and pretending that they are not is foolish.

Floor crossings are fine but looking at the latest tells a different story. Ma potentially has ties to the CPC (you know the country Carney said was the greatest security threat to Canada). Jeneroux's crossing should have forced a byelection immediately. Whether you like it or not, constituents do NOT vote for the candidate, they vote for the candidate that promises to represent them according to their values. Heck the guy is not even in Edmonton and gas no presence so how is he representing thos constituents? And the last, dumping millions into her riding and (potentially) interfering in a criminal case? That is something to watch out for

Bottom line, this is not the same old thing as the creator wants you to believe. So, he is definitely wrong about "this always happens, sore losers". You want to represent Canada, all well and good, the current government is NOT doing this. 100,000 lost jobs in 2 months? Keeping natural resources in the ground? Not getting a trade deal with our largest trading partner, which equates to billions of dollars and thousands of jobs? Good for Canada, no, not even close.

KRM's avatar
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It's a weird squishy brand of leftism, isn't it.

A bizarre alliance between the idle poor looking for handouts, bad faith migrants looking to benefit from our society without paying in, useful idiots brainwashed by propaganda about abortion, guns, "American style" healthcare and other shibboleths, out of touch boomers sitting on millions in assets with a high school education and a lifetime peak income of like $70K, and the unfathomably wealthy who benefit from government corruption and insider trading but also think they are morally superior because they can force others to lessen their standard of living to the supposed benefit of abstract causes. (Edit: oh, I almost forgot drug addicts, criminals, and myriad mid-level grifters). Really a foul smelling stew of the most harmful people for society.

Those who are hurt most are those trying to better themselves and get ahead. The working middle class and those trying desperately to compete with entrenched wealth. Those who want something better and are running on a treadmill of ever increasing speed.

john's avatar

I don't like it, and I didn't when the Conservatives did it, but Poilievre should be talking about how the floor crossers are part of the problem, but he is the solution for what this government is precipitating.

Poilievre should be talking about things that Carney has talked about but has done nothing about; namely fixing interprovincial border restrictions and starting on big projects.

PatrickB's avatar

Great post. Also, it’s the opposition leaders’ fault for nominating floor crossers in the first place. Pierre controls who gets to run as CPC candidates so he shouldn’t bitch about his own nominees ditching the CPC.

PatrickB's avatar

??? We’ve had a few elections since Harper was CPC leader

Gerald Pelchat's avatar

Clearly Harper's fault; oh, wait....

Béretman's avatar

Strange that Floor Crossing isn’t an issue when the other side does…there’s losing, which is part of life. Then there’s being a sore loser, which is a choice. And if you don’t choose it, then you have to go do some serious self-reflection. This is what youths learn in school when we play sports. You win, you lose. Can’t deal with it? Too bad so sad.

Gerald Pelchat's avatar

What youths "USED TO" learn in school: now they get participation ribbons...

Ben's avatar

I'm pretty sure voters prefer to see their own representative behave at least somewhat independently and not act as a doormat for the leader of that representative's political party. One of the things that turned me off about Poilievre's campaign were the giant flags with his name on it that were in another candidate's riding (say what you will about how his campaign actually went within his own riding). It seems strange that someone would need to remind a Conservative politician that we live in a parliamentary rather than presidential system.

Joanne Harack's avatar

Canada's federal deficit-to-GDP ratios and net debt levels are amongst the lowest in the G7 - much lower than the US. Overall government gross debt (including provincial/municipal and household) is much higher. Foreign Direct Investment actually increased in 2025. Foreign agreements with respect to energy, trade, and defense have been signed with India, Japan, Mexico, Indonesia, China, UAE, Qatar, ASEAN - to name only some. Progress is being made with respect to the military, defunding of which began long before Trudeau. The PM and premiers meet now - another big change from the Trudeau years. It is not hard to understand the polls; most Canadians recognize the change and do not find the Conservative message that nothing works to be either truthful or compelling.

Applied Epistemologist's avatar

The Conservatives should be calling for an election any day, every day. If they really believe Canada is in a mess and the Liberals are making it worse, they should show the courage and confidence to put their case to the voters.

And if they don't believe that, they are clueless.

Nicholas's avatar

No, they need to wait until the end of the month when the NDP have selected their new party leader.

Gido Barneski's avatar

Don't need to win the election as long as you pick a party leader with a personal fortune and enough chutzpah and jurisdictional flexibility to bribe public officials with trips, positions, and private compensation packages.

Bribery of members of the legislature is a serious crime and a problem when its happening openly in democracy.

Ignoring it is loser talk, Conservatives are exactly right to focus on the Tamany Hall-level of corruption within the Liberal party, especially Carney's liberals. Gomery is what brought down the Liberal party the last time, who knows how many manila envelopes of cash are going around this time?

The very fact that writers are trying to tell the conservatives not to push on the corruption angle is evidence that there's blood in the water.

Why vote when Carney will just use his foreign fortune to bribe members of the legislature to do what he wants?