If there is an untruth in anything I have said I will be happy to send along the correct evidence of the bills passed to labels that keep being placed on Conservatives as white supremest and the left being anti Semitic as it has been documented and reported by Jewish groups fighting hatred. If proof is needed by for my statements please let me know as I am happy to provide my resources.
I've often wondered how populism will play out in Canada. In most of the rest of the work its usually a mix of anti immigrantion anti foreigner tough on crime rhetoric along with a nice mix leftist give money to people approach (thinking here of Jair Bolsonareo Brazil's Trump). But it seems Canada has chosen to make the unique approach open borders (irregular border crossers here's to you) more crime (Toronto and mayor John Tory) along with printing money and giving it to people. Throw in a good bit of vaccine incompetence and volia made in Canada populism.
No wonder the Conservatives can't gain any traction!
It's like Sloan's supporters didn't learn anything from the problems the Reform Party had in its early days when idiocy like this was used to paint Reformers and the Canadian Alliance as bigots that wanted to turn Canada into the Bible Belt North, even though Preston Manning made clear in his own writings that this wasn't the case. He even wrote in "The New Canada" about how he had to talk the grassroots out of nominating one particularly bad radio host as a B.C. candidate.
And why would Sloan, or anyone on the sane right, want to be associating with Neo-Nazis in the first place? We spend every Remembrance Day honouring the memories of people who made the supreme sacrifice to defeat that shit, so why are we dishonouring our fallen soldiers' sacrifice by embracing it now?
There's a reason more and more Republicans are turning against the likes of QAnon and Trump. The last thing the CPC or any provincial Conservative party needs is to be going in the opposite direction when it leads straight off a cliff.
They now have reports that the Liberal Party of Canada received donations from Peter Nygaard. It would appear that the Liberals seem to attract pedophiles. Perhaps the fact that they lowered the jail time for both abduction and rape and child marriage is left on its own and rarely prosecuted, might show you the direction of the party itself. They also changed the law allowing consensual anal sex down to the age of 14. It would seem that even a person of dubious behavior who has been trafficking humans is exempt from charges if the trafficked human says it was consensual. Funny how we drift further and further from sainthood into depravity but its all on the up and up and good for humanity, right? After all who cares about the sexual abuse of children. According to the academics of the progressive nature children like this sort of thing. So much for the years spent advocating for sexually abused children and creating healing programs as apparently it really unnecessary according to the progressive in academia. I guess we all have to pick our poison as we see both sides seem to attract the extreme. As it was with Sloan the donation was $131 dollars and the name of the individual was not under the same name as the man is known to go under. The same can not be said for Peter Nygaard's donation as he did not change his name to be obscure. But really why split hairs as both pedophiles and white supremist are not nice people. Nazi's, well they are a totally different breed and are actually more connected to both sides of the political spectrum. With our education of the youth (brown shirts) who now police the adults on climate change, cancel culture which has blossomed under the Liberal Government of Canada (burn those books) and anti Semitism ( Trudeaus voting against Israel). There has been an increase of hate crimes against the Jewish people in Europe and North America under Progressive Governments. So It is easy to name call, denounce, and judge as all Progressives Governments are supremely good at as they thrive by demonizing the other side. Its a tactic to distract, intimidate, and denounce those who are different from oneself and make them the focal point of nastiness so they can escape the scrutiny of the public eye. With the help of the main stream media it works extremely well but some of us are actually paying attention to the facts.
Yes he had a history but exactly what that history was depends on who one listens to. The story that went out to the public was that he accepted a donation from a white supremest. If they want to denounce him for what they believed to be the issue, then do so. Don’t advertise it for what it was not just for optics. That’s dirty politics and what I would expect from Trudeau and the Liberals, not the Conservatives.
This is literally O'Toole's statement from Jan. 20, shortly after Sloan was ousted: "“The Conservative Caucus voted to remove Derek Sloan not because of one specific event, but because of a pattern of destructive behaviour involving multiple incidents and disrespect towards the Conservative team for over a year. These actions have been a consistent distraction from our efforts to grow the Party and focus on the work we need to do. Events of the past week were simply the last straw and led to our caucus making the decision it did today."
Yes I am aware of that. Why then was the whole incident of the donation even put out to the public? That just makes it appear to be something it’s not and all it managed to do was show the public we indeed had white supremest backing the party. Which was a fallacy as he would not, could not, know every person who donated money, just as you could not. It was done for optics by O’Toole and that is not good politics. This is the reason why people have little trust in the politicians we elect. When you and others realize that people are not as ignorant as you assume and that truth should over ride rhetoric, then trust is earned. Playing games and deeming someone attached to a white supremest is not only bad for the person involved but bad for the entire party. It’s like Conservatives breed them. If that was the look you were going for, you succeeded.
Canadian Conservatives who court (or even tolerate) extreme, far-right Republican-style rhetoric and politics are extremely stupid to do so. Those positions can't sustainably be held by a Canadian mainstream political party because Canadian electoral institutions are fundamentally majoritarian and don't give Conservatives an unfair advantage. Yet Canadian Conservative politicians wrongly draw inspiration from the US here, without understanding that Republican-style hate-filled lunatic vitriol only works because these views are enabled and privileged by the structure of American electoral institutions.
1) The Senate empowers rural (i.e. Republican) positions in congress well out of proportion to their populations.
2) The electoral college. 100 of 538 EC votes come from states' senators and give minority views more power in presidential politics.
3) State-level gerrymandering and electoral control, particularly after the 2010 election. States run elections and draw congressional district boundaries, and in 2010 (when the last round of redistricting happened), PA/OH/WI/MI/FL were all Republican trifecta states. This let them draw congressional districts that artificially empowered Republicans at the federal House level (and in some cases they systematically disenfranchised non-Republican voters in Senate/Presidential elections, giving further advantage).
All of this explains why toxic views and people have, top to bottom, infected the Republican party. There's some common political cause but I'd argue these people/views would have been stamped out long ago if American political institutions actually punished the GOP for incubating them. These minoritarian, grievance-driven fringe positions wouldn't stand a chance if they had to compete on a level playing field.
Hopefully the Canadian Conservative party will learn this sooner or later. But first they need to get their house in order, stop fecklessly aiming to be all conservative things to all conservative people, and start playing to win.
Far right radicals in the party will be found by their actions and dealt with when needed. Kicking Sloan out sends the appropriate message to any followers. That's how you deal with it. Not by creating lists of un wanted people.
'purge the party' and 'use their skulls as paving stones' , 'Be merciless' , 'Take a few more MAGA-behatted heads'
The author can hardly be taken seriously when she espouses her concern for extremism with the use of extremist language. I can only assume that the reader's amusement was the author's intent otherwise the lack of self-awareness is remarkable.
'One day, the left may have to come to terms with radicals in their own ranks, and if that day ever comes, whoo boy it will be something to see. ' Perhaps there remains an echo of self-awareness here but this may be an overgenerous notion on my part.
We know how populism will play out in Canada. We have already seen it in multiple European countries. The left leaning parties (I am now including the CPC in this description) drive out any dissent with their relentless drive for ideological purity. The numbers of the outcast grow and their ranks swell with both respectable people and dregs alike. These ranks will form parties and gain traction, if only because they will speak to concerns the mainstream parties will not touch. Lacking awareness and forethought, the left leaning mainstream parties will carry on doggedly, unconsciously creating and empowering their own opposition. Given enough time within this dynamic, the right leaning opposition parties will gain votes and political power and in the process place some unsavory characters at the forefront of our politics.
It's ironic; the mainstream parties think that by banishing everyone to the right of Mao that they are nipping the problem in the bud, and instead they are helping it flourish.
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If there is an untruth in anything I have said I will be happy to send along the correct evidence of the bills passed to labels that keep being placed on Conservatives as white supremest and the left being anti Semitic as it has been documented and reported by Jewish groups fighting hatred. If proof is needed by for my statements please let me know as I am happy to provide my resources.
I've often wondered how populism will play out in Canada. In most of the rest of the work its usually a mix of anti immigrantion anti foreigner tough on crime rhetoric along with a nice mix leftist give money to people approach (thinking here of Jair Bolsonareo Brazil's Trump). But it seems Canada has chosen to make the unique approach open borders (irregular border crossers here's to you) more crime (Toronto and mayor John Tory) along with printing money and giving it to people. Throw in a good bit of vaccine incompetence and volia made in Canada populism.
No wonder the Conservatives can't gain any traction!
It's like Sloan's supporters didn't learn anything from the problems the Reform Party had in its early days when idiocy like this was used to paint Reformers and the Canadian Alliance as bigots that wanted to turn Canada into the Bible Belt North, even though Preston Manning made clear in his own writings that this wasn't the case. He even wrote in "The New Canada" about how he had to talk the grassroots out of nominating one particularly bad radio host as a B.C. candidate.
And why would Sloan, or anyone on the sane right, want to be associating with Neo-Nazis in the first place? We spend every Remembrance Day honouring the memories of people who made the supreme sacrifice to defeat that shit, so why are we dishonouring our fallen soldiers' sacrifice by embracing it now?
There's a reason more and more Republicans are turning against the likes of QAnon and Trump. The last thing the CPC or any provincial Conservative party needs is to be going in the opposite direction when it leads straight off a cliff.
They now have reports that the Liberal Party of Canada received donations from Peter Nygaard. It would appear that the Liberals seem to attract pedophiles. Perhaps the fact that they lowered the jail time for both abduction and rape and child marriage is left on its own and rarely prosecuted, might show you the direction of the party itself. They also changed the law allowing consensual anal sex down to the age of 14. It would seem that even a person of dubious behavior who has been trafficking humans is exempt from charges if the trafficked human says it was consensual. Funny how we drift further and further from sainthood into depravity but its all on the up and up and good for humanity, right? After all who cares about the sexual abuse of children. According to the academics of the progressive nature children like this sort of thing. So much for the years spent advocating for sexually abused children and creating healing programs as apparently it really unnecessary according to the progressive in academia. I guess we all have to pick our poison as we see both sides seem to attract the extreme. As it was with Sloan the donation was $131 dollars and the name of the individual was not under the same name as the man is known to go under. The same can not be said for Peter Nygaard's donation as he did not change his name to be obscure. But really why split hairs as both pedophiles and white supremist are not nice people. Nazi's, well they are a totally different breed and are actually more connected to both sides of the political spectrum. With our education of the youth (brown shirts) who now police the adults on climate change, cancel culture which has blossomed under the Liberal Government of Canada (burn those books) and anti Semitism ( Trudeaus voting against Israel). There has been an increase of hate crimes against the Jewish people in Europe and North America under Progressive Governments. So It is easy to name call, denounce, and judge as all Progressives Governments are supremely good at as they thrive by demonizing the other side. Its a tactic to distract, intimidate, and denounce those who are different from oneself and make them the focal point of nastiness so they can escape the scrutiny of the public eye. With the help of the main stream media it works extremely well but some of us are actually paying attention to the facts.
Sloan was not kicked out because of one mislabeled donation. The guy had a history. C'mon, man.
Yes he had a history but exactly what that history was depends on who one listens to. The story that went out to the public was that he accepted a donation from a white supremest. If they want to denounce him for what they believed to be the issue, then do so. Don’t advertise it for what it was not just for optics. That’s dirty politics and what I would expect from Trudeau and the Liberals, not the Conservatives.
This is literally O'Toole's statement from Jan. 20, shortly after Sloan was ousted: "“The Conservative Caucus voted to remove Derek Sloan not because of one specific event, but because of a pattern of destructive behaviour involving multiple incidents and disrespect towards the Conservative team for over a year. These actions have been a consistent distraction from our efforts to grow the Party and focus on the work we need to do. Events of the past week were simply the last straw and led to our caucus making the decision it did today."
https://www.conservative.ca/statement-from-erin-otoole-january-20/
Further, Sloan was actively organizing against the leader ahead of the party's annual conference.
Yes I am aware of that. Why then was the whole incident of the donation even put out to the public? That just makes it appear to be something it’s not and all it managed to do was show the public we indeed had white supremest backing the party. Which was a fallacy as he would not, could not, know every person who donated money, just as you could not. It was done for optics by O’Toole and that is not good politics. This is the reason why people have little trust in the politicians we elect. When you and others realize that people are not as ignorant as you assume and that truth should over ride rhetoric, then trust is earned. Playing games and deeming someone attached to a white supremest is not only bad for the person involved but bad for the entire party. It’s like Conservatives breed them. If that was the look you were going for, you succeeded.
Canadian Conservatives who court (or even tolerate) extreme, far-right Republican-style rhetoric and politics are extremely stupid to do so. Those positions can't sustainably be held by a Canadian mainstream political party because Canadian electoral institutions are fundamentally majoritarian and don't give Conservatives an unfair advantage. Yet Canadian Conservative politicians wrongly draw inspiration from the US here, without understanding that Republican-style hate-filled lunatic vitriol only works because these views are enabled and privileged by the structure of American electoral institutions.
1) The Senate empowers rural (i.e. Republican) positions in congress well out of proportion to their populations.
2) The electoral college. 100 of 538 EC votes come from states' senators and give minority views more power in presidential politics.
3) State-level gerrymandering and electoral control, particularly after the 2010 election. States run elections and draw congressional district boundaries, and in 2010 (when the last round of redistricting happened), PA/OH/WI/MI/FL were all Republican trifecta states. This let them draw congressional districts that artificially empowered Republicans at the federal House level (and in some cases they systematically disenfranchised non-Republican voters in Senate/Presidential elections, giving further advantage).
All of this explains why toxic views and people have, top to bottom, infected the Republican party. There's some common political cause but I'd argue these people/views would have been stamped out long ago if American political institutions actually punished the GOP for incubating them. These minoritarian, grievance-driven fringe positions wouldn't stand a chance if they had to compete on a level playing field.
Hopefully the Canadian Conservative party will learn this sooner or later. But first they need to get their house in order, stop fecklessly aiming to be all conservative things to all conservative people, and start playing to win.
Far right radicals in the party will be found by their actions and dealt with when needed. Kicking Sloan out sends the appropriate message to any followers. That's how you deal with it. Not by creating lists of un wanted people.
'purge the party' and 'use their skulls as paving stones' , 'Be merciless' , 'Take a few more MAGA-behatted heads'
The author can hardly be taken seriously when she espouses her concern for extremism with the use of extremist language. I can only assume that the reader's amusement was the author's intent otherwise the lack of self-awareness is remarkable.
'One day, the left may have to come to terms with radicals in their own ranks, and if that day ever comes, whoo boy it will be something to see. ' Perhaps there remains an echo of self-awareness here but this may be an overgenerous notion on my part.
We know how populism will play out in Canada. We have already seen it in multiple European countries. The left leaning parties (I am now including the CPC in this description) drive out any dissent with their relentless drive for ideological purity. The numbers of the outcast grow and their ranks swell with both respectable people and dregs alike. These ranks will form parties and gain traction, if only because they will speak to concerns the mainstream parties will not touch. Lacking awareness and forethought, the left leaning mainstream parties will carry on doggedly, unconsciously creating and empowering their own opposition. Given enough time within this dynamic, the right leaning opposition parties will gain votes and political power and in the process place some unsavory characters at the forefront of our politics.
It's ironic; the mainstream parties think that by banishing everyone to the right of Mao that they are nipping the problem in the bud, and instead they are helping it flourish.