Interesting piece but it is showing a childish innocence on one glaring aspect: What if this was EXACTLY the Government's plan and agenda. They want that sledgehammer to force people to their will and support. Assuming incompetence in drafting is never a wise thing most especially when dealing with a Government that has demonstrated a wonderfully consistent "oops" factor that always seems to accrue their power and enhance our peril. But, you know, just trust the guy with 3, 4, 5, ethics violations and a love of martial law and the CCP. He would never dream of taking his frustrations out on an innocent party trying to exercise their voice would he? Well, not again...
We as citizens of a democracy do not need this type of harmful legislation. Is this an example of the influence peddling that Communist China appears to be delivering to Canada? Not sure if I’m serious on that comment or not but the term Orwellian hardly does service to this type of intrusive mind control legislation.
Great piece Kevin, but I have to take issue with your usage of woke language, in this case "equity-seeking". It adds nothing to your article and panders to the DIE cult crowd.
I'm not sure why equity-seeking is woke language? The word equity existed long before the woke-movement existed. It's not wrong to seek an equitable solution or equitable rules IMO - perhaps this phrase may be co-opted by woke groups? But that doesn't mean the words are wrong. Just like diversity is used by DEI but it's actually extremely important - just not in the way DEI tries to do it. (Deep level diversity matters - surface level diversity doesn't. Sometimes surface level diversity - how someone looks, where they're from, their religion, race, etc MAY lead to them having deep level diversity which is diversity in ideas, opinions, and beliefs - but not always. And the diversity that matters is ensuring there are different ideas and beliefs and perspectives so that ideas and creativity are fostered. That's what diversity originally was about - and what it needs to go back to meaning. Not the ridiculous DEI type of diversity but real diversity.)
You have a good point and I'm 100% with you regarding deep level diversity. Vivek speaks about it brilliantly in his book Woke Inc.
Even if equity existed before the woke death cult and was used in some contexts, I've only ever seen "equity-seeking" used by woke zealots and as a rule I would shy away from any terminology co-opted by them, as its meaning would have changed.
I disagree, especially in cases like this. Ideally this piece won't just appeal to partisans on either "side", but will persuade people to address real problems. Using language that can broaden the appeal can get more people on board with it.
Maybe your experience with people using the term left a bad taste in your mouth but that isn't necessarily a reason to exclude it if it's an accurate usage.
I just don't understand who is asking for this legislation? Making death threats is already illegal (I'm not a lawyer) and "online harms" are probably not even in the top 10 things that most Canadians are worried about. More worried about the economy, environmental issues (wildfires are going to be fucked this year boys) and a whole bunch of other shit
The first definition of CCP that pops up in most English language dictionaries is Chinese Communist Party. The Liberal party’s and Trudeau’s Secret Santa. I love it! 👏👏👏
While I certainly concur with the author's condemnation of the effects of yet another ill-conceived piece of legislation, I do take issue with the depiction of prosecutors as the agents of the government's sledgehammer tactic.
Prosecutors are acutely aware of any potential immigration effects of convictions on a given file, and are now reminded by the SCC that those effects must be considered in the sentencing procedure. The implication that prosecutors can 'threaten deportation' reflects neither the prosecutor's obligation to the Court, nor their capacity to pursue such consequences.
Deportation is a power wielded and dispensed by the IRB and the Federal government - not by Crown Attorneys. To conflate the two as partners in some nefarious overreach to threaten vulnerable non-citizen groups does a grave disservice to prosecutors, who are as much at the mercy of poorly-conceived legislation as the accused themselves.
I have a terrifically simple question / comment: why on earth would anyone be surprised that the current government would a) pass a law with these provisions; and b) then deny that it says what it does, indeed, say?
Ms. Dwivedi may want to consider how passage of this bill in its current form, combined with a majority Cons Govt, might result in some "bad faith" manifestations that she wishes she had considered while she was in power.
Great piece! From the government’s viewpoint it’s a great tool to help ease the housing crisis and ensuring the not yet deported toe the party line. A sufficiently humble loyal survivor might even someday get to be a minister in Trudeau’s Stepford cabinet 😆😆😆
Interesting piece but it is showing a childish innocence on one glaring aspect: What if this was EXACTLY the Government's plan and agenda. They want that sledgehammer to force people to their will and support. Assuming incompetence in drafting is never a wise thing most especially when dealing with a Government that has demonstrated a wonderfully consistent "oops" factor that always seems to accrue their power and enhance our peril. But, you know, just trust the guy with 3, 4, 5, ethics violations and a love of martial law and the CCP. He would never dream of taking his frustrations out on an innocent party trying to exercise their voice would he? Well, not again...
So, I wonder if being an immigrant and not voting Liberal would be considered an act motivated by hate.
We as citizens of a democracy do not need this type of harmful legislation. Is this an example of the influence peddling that Communist China appears to be delivering to Canada? Not sure if I’m serious on that comment or not but the term Orwellian hardly does service to this type of intrusive mind control legislation.
Great piece Kevin, but I have to take issue with your usage of woke language, in this case "equity-seeking". It adds nothing to your article and panders to the DIE cult crowd.
Words matter. Please do better.
That's tone policing. Do better better. JG
I don't believe it is, but am willing to hear why you think it is.
Calling out specific language is markedly different from calling out the tone of the piece.
I'm not sure why equity-seeking is woke language? The word equity existed long before the woke-movement existed. It's not wrong to seek an equitable solution or equitable rules IMO - perhaps this phrase may be co-opted by woke groups? But that doesn't mean the words are wrong. Just like diversity is used by DEI but it's actually extremely important - just not in the way DEI tries to do it. (Deep level diversity matters - surface level diversity doesn't. Sometimes surface level diversity - how someone looks, where they're from, their religion, race, etc MAY lead to them having deep level diversity which is diversity in ideas, opinions, and beliefs - but not always. And the diversity that matters is ensuring there are different ideas and beliefs and perspectives so that ideas and creativity are fostered. That's what diversity originally was about - and what it needs to go back to meaning. Not the ridiculous DEI type of diversity but real diversity.)
You have a good point and I'm 100% with you regarding deep level diversity. Vivek speaks about it brilliantly in his book Woke Inc.
Even if equity existed before the woke death cult and was used in some contexts, I've only ever seen "equity-seeking" used by woke zealots and as a rule I would shy away from any terminology co-opted by them, as its meaning would have changed.
I disagree, especially in cases like this. Ideally this piece won't just appeal to partisans on either "side", but will persuade people to address real problems. Using language that can broaden the appeal can get more people on board with it.
Maybe your experience with people using the term left a bad taste in your mouth but that isn't necessarily a reason to exclude it if it's an accurate usage.
You may not agree, but this is newspeak. In my opinion all newspeak should be shunned and mocked into oblivion.
I'll even change my mind if you can give me a clear unequivocal definition of what it means.
Actually, woke language is now "equity-deserving."
potato potato lol
I just don't understand who is asking for this legislation? Making death threats is already illegal (I'm not a lawyer) and "online harms" are probably not even in the top 10 things that most Canadians are worried about. More worried about the economy, environmental issues (wildfires are going to be fucked this year boys) and a whole bunch of other shit
Am I still safe if I refer to Justin Trudeau as a Certified Canadian Prick?
Just shorten it to CCP. That's safe because you have plausible deniability.
The first definition of CCP that pops up in most English language dictionaries is Chinese Communist Party. The Liberal party’s and Trudeau’s Secret Santa. I love it! 👏👏👏
While I certainly concur with the author's condemnation of the effects of yet another ill-conceived piece of legislation, I do take issue with the depiction of prosecutors as the agents of the government's sledgehammer tactic.
Prosecutors are acutely aware of any potential immigration effects of convictions on a given file, and are now reminded by the SCC that those effects must be considered in the sentencing procedure. The implication that prosecutors can 'threaten deportation' reflects neither the prosecutor's obligation to the Court, nor their capacity to pursue such consequences.
Deportation is a power wielded and dispensed by the IRB and the Federal government - not by Crown Attorneys. To conflate the two as partners in some nefarious overreach to threaten vulnerable non-citizen groups does a grave disservice to prosecutors, who are as much at the mercy of poorly-conceived legislation as the accused themselves.
I have a terrifically simple question / comment: why on earth would anyone be surprised that the current government would a) pass a law with these provisions; and b) then deny that it says what it does, indeed, say?
The legal profession in Canada seems to be of one mind when it comes to increased powers of the judiciary. No one should be surprised
I think there are bigger issues with this law than disadvantaging some non-Canadian criminals. BTW, I tried to find out how many criminals are deported from Canada. Not many. This is what I found. https://globalnews.ca/news/4087292/canada-deporting-dangerous-criminals-ineffective-still-here/
Ms. Dwivedi may want to consider how passage of this bill in its current form, combined with a majority Cons Govt, might result in some "bad faith" manifestations that she wishes she had considered while she was in power.
Great piece! From the government’s viewpoint it’s a great tool to help ease the housing crisis and ensuring the not yet deported toe the party line. A sufficiently humble loyal survivor might even someday get to be a minister in Trudeau’s Stepford cabinet 😆😆😆