The perfect (and perfectly logical) term for the terrible mess that Canadians are surrounded with (mostly, but not exclusively, because of our failure to impose "tough love" on:
* banks that only lend to wealthy older people who then buy up housing so they can charge exorbitant rents to "supplement their incomes".
NB: The second-order consequence here? The housing crisis (AND the homelessness crisis).
* drug addicts and others who are mentally ill and pose clear and present risks to most everyone else around them.
NB: The second-order consequence? Reduced trust in society for strangers and a fear of certain neighbourhoods.
* political parties that stoke division instead of working together to address real issues.
NB: The second-order consequence? Loss-of-confidence in our democracy and the failure to move more quickly to fix problems that need fixing.
Thank you for posting this podcast and in particular the recording of your interview with Tristin Hopper.
I was left wondering exactly what Mitch Case meant when he talked about the deemphasis of reconciliation after the start of COVID. My interpretation was that was a function of society generally passing “Peak Woke” after 2020. Meanwhile, there’s definitely a number of visible manifestations in a revised BC public school curriculum, big changes in resource and land management with delegation of power to BC First Nations, and the very visible renaming of buildings, roads, and towns with aboriginal names in an alphabet that’s unfamiliar to most people. That’s not been uncontroversial.
It's an odd one, since the Govt of Canada only signed a consultation agreement with the MNO in 2021.
The MNO is seen as controversial amongst communities of the Robinson Huron treaty, the numbered treaties, and even the Manitoba Metis Federation. I was hoping Matt would ask about that— it's a big deal and it would have been very interesting to get the MNO perspective. Swing and a miss, unfortunately.
I have a newly minted 18 year old son. This generation is very different. After his grad banquet he and his friends drove around in our Rav4, took silly pictures in their tuxes, and then ate cinnamon buns. His good buddy's 18th birthday party was....bowling. That wasn't, cough cough, my experience at the end of grade 12...
They ruthlessly enforce behavior codes on each other. It's going to take another decade for sociologists to decipher it, but my instinct says it's a reaction to Covid school and the crazed woke peak that went along with it. They don't trust authority, and find solace and control amoungst each other. They watched their teachers, parents and other authority figures lose their minds in front of them.
The excess of the 90s and more specifically the 2000s and early 2010s is dead. All of the nightclubs are closing, and the pot stores will follow. Movies are back though, as are live music and theatre. It's not the 50s...it's Victorian. All of the girls at grad wore some kind of Victorian or Edwardian styled gown, complete with a boned in corset.
It's fascinating.
They are the Minecraft generation. I wonder what they will build.
Loved the Tristan Hopper segment. Plus it’s tremendous to hear a major outlet acknowledge Amy Hamm and the presence of (male) sex offenders in women’s prisons. We have a lot of work to do Canada. Talking openly about our issues is a good first step.
I'm a little disappointed in the Mitch Case segment. Thoughts were started but not finished. What does the collapse of the fur industry have to do with resource development today? How are the Metis people especially pragmatic or entrepreneurial compared to any other identifiable group? In what specific ways are resource projects at odds with the goals and aspirations of First Nations peoples? Many points raised, but nothing resolved.
I've had this feeling that Canadians (especially media) have this belief that if they don't cover something, it doesn't exist. If they cover something (however not a thing it is), it exists. So when they see a problem that doesn't align with their vision of what Canada should be like, they can just not cover it and believe it'll go away or brushed off as one off.
Also government feel that if they declare / announce something, then it comes to be. I remember Matt mentioned that a CPC MP had this belief "but it's announced that we're going to solve it? How come it's still a problem?"
This makes me feel that a lot of people, especially those that live comfortably, is living in a game world (maybe sim City) where if you don't see something, it doesn't exist, and when you say something will be made, it'll be made (you already clicked it in the menu after all!)
And instead of seeing reality where things don't go the way they are, you see things the way they should be.
I think this is why I get my back up with the outcry over “platforming”. The reflexive pushback to oppose providing a “platform” to views that, on the surface appear controversial, causes many to think twice before talking publicly about a supposed controversial issue like bail reform. It also makes the actual extremist view the only game in town. I think Matt’s point about the centrist voices needing to pushback or have these conversations is actually crucial to coming up with constructive solutions and as a counter to the head in the sand phenomenon you described.
Great session. Hopefully the book reads as well as the interview. Is Tristin sending you royalties 😉🤣
Added a bit to my understanding of the Métis in Canada but there are many nations, factions and associations, much like First Nations (and Inuit) and trying to figure out who speaks for what group provincially/territorially or at the pan-Canadian level (if anyone) is always difficult to sort.
Possibly a good topic for a series of columns or guest columns?
I’m not convinced that the nation as a whole needs more sub “nations” within the whole.
"Second-order consequences".
The perfect (and perfectly logical) term for the terrible mess that Canadians are surrounded with (mostly, but not exclusively, because of our failure to impose "tough love" on:
* banks that only lend to wealthy older people who then buy up housing so they can charge exorbitant rents to "supplement their incomes".
NB: The second-order consequence here? The housing crisis (AND the homelessness crisis).
* drug addicts and others who are mentally ill and pose clear and present risks to most everyone else around them.
NB: The second-order consequence? Reduced trust in society for strangers and a fear of certain neighbourhoods.
* political parties that stoke division instead of working together to address real issues.
NB: The second-order consequence? Loss-of-confidence in our democracy and the failure to move more quickly to fix problems that need fixing.
Thank you for posting this podcast and in particular the recording of your interview with Tristin Hopper.
I was left wondering exactly what Mitch Case meant when he talked about the deemphasis of reconciliation after the start of COVID. My interpretation was that was a function of society generally passing “Peak Woke” after 2020. Meanwhile, there’s definitely a number of visible manifestations in a revised BC public school curriculum, big changes in resource and land management with delegation of power to BC First Nations, and the very visible renaming of buildings, roads, and towns with aboriginal names in an alphabet that’s unfamiliar to most people. That’s not been uncontroversial.
It's an odd one, since the Govt of Canada only signed a consultation agreement with the MNO in 2021.
The MNO is seen as controversial amongst communities of the Robinson Huron treaty, the numbered treaties, and even the Manitoba Metis Federation. I was hoping Matt would ask about that— it's a big deal and it would have been very interesting to get the MNO perspective. Swing and a miss, unfortunately.
Yes, to get more talk around this would be interesting and worthwhile.
I have a newly minted 18 year old son. This generation is very different. After his grad banquet he and his friends drove around in our Rav4, took silly pictures in their tuxes, and then ate cinnamon buns. His good buddy's 18th birthday party was....bowling. That wasn't, cough cough, my experience at the end of grade 12...
They ruthlessly enforce behavior codes on each other. It's going to take another decade for sociologists to decipher it, but my instinct says it's a reaction to Covid school and the crazed woke peak that went along with it. They don't trust authority, and find solace and control amoungst each other. They watched their teachers, parents and other authority figures lose their minds in front of them.
The excess of the 90s and more specifically the 2000s and early 2010s is dead. All of the nightclubs are closing, and the pot stores will follow. Movies are back though, as are live music and theatre. It's not the 50s...it's Victorian. All of the girls at grad wore some kind of Victorian or Edwardian styled gown, complete with a boned in corset.
It's fascinating.
They are the Minecraft generation. I wonder what they will build.
Loved the Tristan Hopper segment. Plus it’s tremendous to hear a major outlet acknowledge Amy Hamm and the presence of (male) sex offenders in women’s prisons. We have a lot of work to do Canada. Talking openly about our issues is a good first step.
I'm a little disappointed in the Mitch Case segment. Thoughts were started but not finished. What does the collapse of the fur industry have to do with resource development today? How are the Metis people especially pragmatic or entrepreneurial compared to any other identifiable group? In what specific ways are resource projects at odds with the goals and aspirations of First Nations peoples? Many points raised, but nothing resolved.
I've had this feeling that Canadians (especially media) have this belief that if they don't cover something, it doesn't exist. If they cover something (however not a thing it is), it exists. So when they see a problem that doesn't align with their vision of what Canada should be like, they can just not cover it and believe it'll go away or brushed off as one off.
Also government feel that if they declare / announce something, then it comes to be. I remember Matt mentioned that a CPC MP had this belief "but it's announced that we're going to solve it? How come it's still a problem?"
This makes me feel that a lot of people, especially those that live comfortably, is living in a game world (maybe sim City) where if you don't see something, it doesn't exist, and when you say something will be made, it'll be made (you already clicked it in the menu after all!)
And instead of seeing reality where things don't go the way they are, you see things the way they should be.
I think this is why I get my back up with the outcry over “platforming”. The reflexive pushback to oppose providing a “platform” to views that, on the surface appear controversial, causes many to think twice before talking publicly about a supposed controversial issue like bail reform. It also makes the actual extremist view the only game in town. I think Matt’s point about the centrist voices needing to pushback or have these conversations is actually crucial to coming up with constructive solutions and as a counter to the head in the sand phenomenon you described.
Great session. Hopefully the book reads as well as the interview. Is Tristin sending you royalties 😉🤣
Added a bit to my understanding of the Métis in Canada but there are many nations, factions and associations, much like First Nations (and Inuit) and trying to figure out who speaks for what group provincially/territorially or at the pan-Canadian level (if anyone) is always difficult to sort.
Possibly a good topic for a series of columns or guest columns?
Enjoy Europe!