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Mike Canary's avatar

“Jen is unimpressed with Israel, full stop”

Israel withdrew its citizens in 2005 and effectively turned the Gaza Strip over to Palestinian governance. This gave the Palestinians the opportunity to show the world what they could accomplish for their people. On October 7/2023 - they showed the world alright.

I am unimpressed with Jen - full stop.

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Sean Cummings's avatar

Well put. Hamas is a death cult terrorist organization. It does seem, often, that when I read about the war in Gaza, there is a collective mind block when it comes to cause and effect. October 7 was the cause. Here we are now is the effect. I bet those families of hostages killed and still held are unimpressed with the world. At some point, as a country, we are going to have to take steps to protect Jewish citizens. It must happen soon because this is only going to become much worse.

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Stefan Klietsch's avatar

Hamas is a death cult, but how one responds to said death cult still needs to be governed by laws and principles of proportionality (by which I mean, the harm caused by the responding military action needs to be less than the harm avoided by accomplishing the military objective). So Hamas bears responsibility for Israeli reprisals, but if Israeli reprisals were or still are lacking sensible military logic, than Israeli actions are still worthy of moral scrutiny or condemnation.

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NotoriousSceptic's avatar

I nominate you to respond proportionally to the organization which has in its founding charter goal to perform a complete genocide against you and yours.

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Stefan Klietsch's avatar

Rhetorical question: if an organization commits a genocide of your people, are you therefore justified and entitled to commit genocide of your own in response?

I don't consider Israel guilty of "genocide" as the left alleges - I present this as a hypothetical alternative universe because your answer is almost certainly "no". And since your answer is surely "no", you do still believe that proportionality matters when fighting Hamas.

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NotoriousSceptic's avatar

It looks like you are aiming at both precision and accuracy, so I will answer.

Hereafter, the "you" means any reader of this. If the organization dedicated to the genocide of your people is a subset of another people, I - and surely you, would aim at a complete destruction - that is genocide - of that organization.

If the organization dedicated to the genocide of your people is the entirety of another people, I - and surely you, would aim at a complete destruction - that is genocide - of that people. It is grim, but this happened a number of times throughout history. In case of Hamas and Gazans, there are many Gazans who do not and never did truly support Hamas. They could not get away and so had no choice. So yes I have to say that in the case of Gaza when fighting Hamas proportionality matters.

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Jerry Grant's avatar

Yes. See WW2.

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Stefan Klietsch's avatar

"Yes" to which question? Please clarify further.

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Sean Cummings's avatar

We are still in the effect part after the cause I think.

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Jerry Grant's avatar

There is little journalism in Gaza because it is a war zone. So, either you trust the news released by Hamas (and, to a lesser extent, the UN), or you don't.

I don't. I suspect they are manipulating the narrative, because why wouldn't they?

Also, you have to choose to believe that the Quran is a book describing, in militaristic terms, either a path to spiritual enlightenment or a path to hegemony. I read the book and its history and I believe the latter.

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Chris Farmer's avatar

I never heard of Sydney Sweeney until this. I looked her up on the internet. Thank you. I was going to say thanks for doing me a “solid” but that may be taken the wrong way by some….

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Rick's avatar

I won’t be listening to the podcast but I do have a comment about good jeans.

The abject morons that I heard tying eugenics and Nazis to a commercial are perfect examples of the idiocy of academia and the insane left. I cannot imagine being in the same room with people like that and not telling them to GFY.

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Davey J's avatar

The only place this seems to be about nazis and eugenics is social media accounts. Over 50 percent bots or controlled accounts with agendas. And people dumb enough to allow dumpster fire comments sections on X, bluesky, etc to affect their thinking. In the real world, nobody of any sound mind would think this was a Nazi eugenics ad, and wouldnt give a rip. We over play how much social media crap matters. If a real person, in the real world, believes that rubbish they should instantly be labelled as an un serious human and ignored. Collectively we need to real life "block" trolls like this and stop giving them attention if we come across humans who actually buy into stupid stuff like this.

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Rick's avatar

Tell that to the idiot academics MSNBC dug up. World class dumb-asses, one after another.

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Britannicus's avatar

‘CUMSCA’? Really? At no time does the ‘M’ follow the ‘U’ - it’s pronounced ‘CUSMA’ (Canada-United States-Mexico-Agreement). Surely you’re being deliberately obtuse but Orgasm Agreement doesn’t cut it. Puerile.

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B–'s avatar

I'm okay with an off-the-cuff joke, even not-so-funny ones. But I'm 20 minutes into the podcast and have just heard "orgasm" mentioned yet again. Don't beat jokes to death, guys, especially the not-so-funny ones.

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Jarvis Nicolas's avatar

I agree with Matt - were it my daughter or mother or grandmother or wife who was raped, kidnapped, or killed, I wouldn't ever quit. Wouldn't solve the problem, but matters of the heart aren't sensible

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Wesley Burton's avatar

That's why generally families aren't put in charge of doing that job. I agree with Matt and I'd think the same way - and I still acknowledge that I shouldn't be put in charge in that situation for that reason.

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Dan's avatar

I want EU butter and cheese too, but just totally opening up the market is also going to result in us being absolutely flooded with also shitty US dairy products. Heavily subsidized by the US government, and from cows loaded to the udders with growth hormone that has huge negative impacts on the cows health and well being.

I'm all for getting rid of supply management so long as it is coupled with some sort of farm strategy like the EU takes to make sure local farming continues

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Gaz's avatar

So the USA subsidizes my dairy products and some Ontario/Quebec parasites suffer? What's not to like?

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Milo Hrnić's avatar

Charge tariffs to cancel the subsides and not more. Allow any dairy farmer in Canada who wants to increase production capacity to do so.

There are more cows than people in Alberta but Alberta isn't self sufficient in dairy which is nonsense.

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Wesley Burton's avatar

I'm fine with that. Let the consumer decide what they want to buy. If they want great European stuff, fine, if they want local stuff, fine, if they want the American stuff - so be it. The government should have no say in that.

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Ken Laloge's avatar

EU trade deals do not include the US.

Buying EU dairy would be great, but what could we sell them in return (when there's "no business case" for our exports)?

If the government of Canada wants to ban rBST/rBGH dosed dairy from the US, they can, but that's not what they're doing.

Many dairy producers in the US offer rBST-free milk, including any organic milk, which comes from cows not treated with rBST or other synthetic hormones.

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B–'s avatar

Tip: don’t buy the shitty products.

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Milo Hrnić's avatar

Canada is a culture that is obsessed with consensus and "politeness" meaning avoidance of confrontation. The problem with that is nothing gets done in a reasonable time.

Carney is trapped by the macro version of NIMBY and his voting coalition are a coalition of the established and incumbents. They lean older, richer and Eastern.

I wasn't kidding when I said if Canada falls apart that the dairy farmers deserve a chapter in the history book outlining why. Same with the First Nations I'll add. It will be ironic that two groups who we thought were crucial to keep Canada together in the end will be crucial in Canada falling apart.

As for Gaza and the Gazans, they are captured by a death cult. The Israelis have offered them many opportunities to live side by side and the Gazans continue to tell them they want to kill them all. How do you not treat that as an existential threat. Even the rest of the Arabic world thinks the Gazans are more trouble than they are worth.

As for Sydney Sweeney, she makes the world just a little bit better. It is predictable in how many women hate her.

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B–'s avatar
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I was fine until your last sentence. I had no idea who Sweeney was until this past week. I absolutely don't hate her. I also happen to understand puns, so maybe that's part of it.

Israel is in a hard place. The conflicts won't end until Israel forces an end to them. The rest of the world isn't going to help. That's become obvious. Anything short of Israel ending it is going to just mean a repeat of the same and likely worse, because the rest of the world has also shown their true colours. Before October 7, 2023, I honestly thought Jews were exaggerating the threat that they felt. I didn't realize how prevalent antisemitism was (although I had started noticing it among NDP supporters). I still feel like a schmuck for not realizing how serious and prevalent the hate was and is.

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Milo Hrnić's avatar

So did I. I thought it was epigenetic PTSD for awhile. I get it. But nope, they were just more sensitive to reality. You can't blame a people for wanting to survive.

As for Sydney Sweeney, there are very few straight men of any age who don't at least understand why she would appeal, even if she isn't their type. Same with Katy Perry, even hard right wing guys respect Justin Trudeau shooting his shot with her. If he would have been seeing her last year it would have helped him electorally. Kind of like when the photos of Melania Trump came out and the hard left weirdos thought it would hurt Donald Trump. Instead it just highlighted that he had enough rizz to pull a dime.

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Gordo's avatar

In some ways I am actually heartened that the attack on the Sydney Sweeney ad was based on nazism. I had seen the ad prior to hearing there was a controversy and upon hearing there was a controversy I assumed it was based on sexism/misogyny grounds. The fact that the ad is clearly intended to have men gaze at her beauty/rack and that that has gone virtually uncommented upon (in favour of a NAZISM attack, are you fucking kidding me!?) may be a sign that nature is healing - also see Richard Hanania on this point. We are (maybe) again allowed to favourably notice and admire attractive well-built women and I for one am here for it!

Also, on the possibility of Junior maybe dating Sydney Sweeney, Jen I would not be so quick to write that off based on the age gap. He has shown that he has a lot in common with his father so it would be very much ON BRAND for him to become romantically involved with a much younger woman (not that there's anything wrong with that).

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KRM's avatar

The most heartening thing about this whole bizarre Sydney Sweeney narrative is that nobody is really taking this seriously. The usual categories of perpetually aggrieved pseudo-intellectuals have made their usual noises and it doesn't seem like anyone is getting cancelled, the ads aren't being pulled, and in fact American Eagle's stock apparently rallied by over 20% on all of this. A far cry from the height of these dimwits' power in 2021 or so. We've finally collectively realized that woke-scolds only have as much power as others are willing to give them, and if you tune them out there is fuck all they can do.

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Gordo's avatar

Exactly. The best tactic has always been to ignore them, never apologize and never yield an inch. But this nonsense is making it easy for everyone to actually laugh at them. And mockery is an even better response than ignoring them.

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Davey J's avatar

Yes and I am happy people and companies are coming around to this. There was a time when 14 twitter accounts could convince a company with millions of customers to pull ads or fire people .I hope we never ever allow our society to get back to that, ever.

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KRM's avatar

I never understood that era where huge powerful entities could be compelled to do the most ridiculous things by some moron with 100 followers on Twitter who posted the right set of magic words. Just ignore them, or worst case, disable comments.

I guess, like everyone else, corporate comms departments also spent the deepest darkest parts of the pandemic clicking 'refresh' on social media and taking the results way too seriously.

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B–'s avatar

Junior tries to replicate everything his dad did. He’s now in the equivalent of senior’s Streisand era.

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John Matthew IV's avatar

Why do Canadian journalists think they can take the summer off? There's still lots of news happening but we have to wait until after Labour Day to learn about them.

Or rely on foreign journalists because they don't take the summer off.

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Matt Gurney's avatar

Oh I’m sorry. Please advise how much I may see my family.

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John Matthew IV's avatar

I am sorry Matt. It was not intention to imply you cannot see your family.

I do believe the comment was made in the podcast and in others that nothing happens in Canada in the summertime and I have never found that to be the case.

To make it less personal, this is a trend I have long observed with the Sunday morning chat shows. In Canada, these shows are off the air in the summer. In the United States, they continue with the regular hosts and look and feel all year round.

Matt, please see your family as often as you wish. Enjoy your long weekend. I will be working.

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Gaz's avatar

You are self-employed? I paid for a 12 month subscription, not 10 months. Please provide a prorated refund.

I look at the local Centex owners and am amazed at their resilience and work ethic. Take note.

7 months and counting.

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Matt Gurney's avatar

No.

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Wesley Burton's avatar

Which foreign journalists are covering internal Canadian stories?

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John Matthew IV's avatar

While all of the Canadian Sunday morning chat shows were on their summer vacation this past weekend, Dominic LeBlanc was interviewed on Face the Nation on CBS by the regular host Margaret Brennan:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dominic-leblanc-canadas-us-trade-minister-face-the-nation-08-03-2025/?intcid=CNR-01-0623

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Milo Hrnić's avatar

Work ethic and ambition. Canadian career ambition is shockingly less than US and UK folks.

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Paul Marques's avatar

I appreciated Jen's comments on Israel. I didn't know anyone else was as skeptical as I am on the likely success or even desirability of a two state solution. Despite the intense negative feelings due to years of conflict and suffering it's the only real way forward.

I recall an interview with a Palestinian journalist who pointed to Canada's success integrating people from all over the world. If Canada can do it then why can't they?

I feel like a lot of comments here are happy to let the Palestinians in Gaza pay for the sins of Hamas. My understanding is that Israel purposely suppressed the secular PLO in favour of Hamas. I don't know why and maybe someone can say more about it.

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Matt Hird's avatar

I have a solution for the trade war: Canada, the EU and Japan all get together and refuse to put imperial measurements on any exports as long as the tariffs remain in place. Force American consumers to figure out what a ‘litre’ is and they’ll be crying for an end to this nonsense.

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B–'s avatar

Justin should have gone for the tabloid-fodder career before 2013. He would likely have been more popular in Canada, and our country would be far better off.

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J. Toogood's avatar

The correct answer on the trade agreement is that you put Mexico first and call it MOOSE-ka.

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Callum's avatar

If anyone in Alberta finds Bles-Wold's Cultured Butter in a grocery store, buy it. I have never had European butter, but I can't imagine any butter possibly tasting better

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George Skinner's avatar

The vexing thing about Gaza is that for all the international posturing, there’s nobody willing to commit significant funds to rebuilding Gaza after the conflict. There’s certainly *nobody* willing to commit to the real root problem, which is addressing the security concerns of both sides.

For a peace to hold, Israel needs to guarantee and end to ongoing rocket and terror attacks on its civilian population. Palestinians need to feel protected from Israeli control and exploitation, such as new settlements and military incursions. That requires a serious military presence for an extended period: a force that can respond forcefully and quickly if Palestinian militants attack Israel, and have sufficient capability to swat Israeli aircraft from the sky or repel ground troops when needed. Further, that military needs to be trusted as independent by both sides. That basically means China, Japan, or South Korea.

However, it’s obvious nobody really gives a damn about Palestinians despite their posturing and rhetoric. They wont commit money and definitely not actual troops. Ironically, the only country that’s actually shown some commitment is Israel.

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