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Matt Hird's avatar

Breaking News: The Liberal Government has banned 36 variants of the Varon-T disruptor. One variant with wood grips is exempt due to its use by Indigenous Romulans.

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Matt Gurney's avatar

This guy gets me.

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David Lindsay's avatar

Proving they still don't understand this issue is ..ironically, long dead and pointless. A truly poor time to piss people off when they've got a little momentum. Trudeau stabbing Carney again as he did with his idiotic HST announcement?

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Milo Hrnić's avatar

I have to say, I'm not seeing the "give up your children's life for Canada" enthusiasm here in Alberta that seems to be the narrative the chattering classes keep on pushing. Ekos polling seems to be showing that as well. The Canada circles the wagons phenomenon is more of a 50+ thing the polling is showing. The youth of Canada didn't grow up in a Canada that had a superior quality of life and standard of living than the US.

Where is the value proposition of Canada rather than the US for those under 40?

I know Jen & Matt have stated they could see how Trump could break this country, and they didn't want to give away how., I don't think Trump and his people are smart or disciplined enough to do that. If they were smart, and actually studied, planned and executed divide and conquer, they would have at least the Prairies within a few months.

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IceSkater40's avatar

Yes, I’m still seeing widespread rose-colored-glasses separation talk. There is true magical thinking by some in Alberta.

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Milo Hrnić's avatar

I agree with you, inertia will keep Alberta in it's current "colony of a colony" situation.

You can't build a culture that lionizes overcoming adversity without expecting that same culture to eat a lot of shit when it comes to Canadian interprovincial politics.

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Lana Charlton's avatar

There's a saying: If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit. I believe that Trump has limited intellect. If he can keep others so scattered that they don't have time or capacity to formulate a response, he has the advantage. I am not trying to be demeaning. I believe this is his strategy.

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Wesley Burton's avatar

Thank you for the TDS public service. I totally agree.

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Carole Saville's avatar

Paul Wells made a 'lets not call people names' public service announcement. I like both of these announcements.

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Howard Bakken's avatar

I don’t agree that the fentanyl problem is a sham. Sam Cooper / The Bureau is exposing huge involvement including Trudeau and the Laurentian elites.

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Line Editor's avatar

We would never say that fent isn't a problem. It is, and our tolerance for white collar crime in this country has always been an issue.

But it is also true that we are not a major source of the drug to the US. Using fent as a pretext for a trade war is absolutely bullshit. JG

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Davey J's avatar

Using Fent and the border is the way for Trump to issue tariffs without Congress. If you can place them under National Security, it can technically be done by Executive Orders. So, these issues are real ones we have to address, but they are being inflated by Trump for this reason more than anything else.

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Jerry Grant's avatar

While I agree that fentanyl is a pretext, I cannot agree that we are not a major source because I haven't a clue. And before you jump on that, I suspect you don't either. We share an undefended border with the US. We have no idea what is going on except at the checkpoints, or where the 2 Black Hawks are at any given moment.

We know guns are crossing feely into Canada because they show up in crime investigations. We know people are being trafficked across but only when it ends in tragedy.

It is the same with fentanyl. You could argue that, because no fentanyl has been seized at the Ontario borders, there must be no fentanyl in Ontario. You can say "Aha, but there is no border security along the Manitoba and Quebec borders," but there is not much more security away from the checkpoints on the US border. A single boat crossing the St. Lawrence could match what is seized annually at the Mexican border and we would never know.

I worked near the Mexican border in Arizona. I saw all manner of Border Patrol vehicles everywhere, I heard gun battles at night. You cannot compare the two borders. As a thought experiment, picture the outcomes if you strapped a backpack stuffed with fentanyl on your back and tried to walk across the Canada-US border somewhere in the prairies. Now picture carrying that backpack across the Mexico-US border into Texas. If you don't think the risk is the same, then you can't use drugs seized as an estimate of the total smuggled.

We had 100,000 people walk into Canada along the 8 kilometres of Roxham Road. For a while the RCMP were there, but now there is a sign advising that it is illegal to cross there. Have people stopped walking the road?

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Reg Stowell's avatar

We (or at least I) have no idea of the magnitude of the Fent "crisis" crossing from Canada into the US. We have a government who goes into a knee jerk reaction and starts putting Blackhawk helicopters over the border to solve this "crisis"

The real crisis is US handguns coming into Canada. Want an asshole Canada suggestion; huge tariffs on everything the US sells into Canada until they solve the handgun issue

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John's avatar
Apr 2Edited

It’s the other way around. The US has a legitimate trade complaint against Canada since it bans handgun and defensive rifle imports. This is known as a non-tariff barrier. (Quebec’s language laws are another instance). If I were an unregulated gun dealer I would be paying bribes as thank yous to the liberal party for passing b gun bans as it allows you to get 4 or 5 times the normal market value for defensive arms.

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Richard MacDowell's avatar

The point is: there are legal enhancements that would improve the likelihood that the culprits are caught and successfully prosecuted and punished; but a Liberal government will never enact them, because it would involve invoking the notwithstandng clause. So in the result: the way that the cops went about acquiring the evidence of criminality is more important than its probative value and the privacy of felons is privileged over the protection of a vulnerable public.

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Angie's avatar

If Canada hadn’t been so weak and given the Americans a lever to pull, as insignificant as you think it is. They wouldn’t have had the chance to use it. Sorry not sorry. Canada should have been doing better all along.

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Mark F's avatar

It’s more that money laundering here is too easy.

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Line Editor's avatar

I think that's right, fwiw. JG

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Shastri Mel's avatar

It might seem like Fentanyl is not an issue East of Praires, but it's definitely a Big deal in BC. We keep finding superlabs here. Just a couple of days ago a drug lab in a quiet suburb exploded.

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John's avatar

Like Vancouver real estate?

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Jerry Grant's avatar

Isn't all the money being laundered here being earned here?

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Ronald Robinson's avatar

Aaa...no....Chinese or south Asian money brought in to buy a house or car with Cash, then sell same and voila!!!!! Clean money. The one that gets me is hockey bags of used 20's to a casino for chips......go play the tables for a while....maybe loose a little...cash out and then again voila!!! Clean money. Meanwhile Banks have to file a bunch of paper work when a deposit was over $10,000

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IceSkater40's avatar

It’s not that fentanyl isn’t an issue - it’s just inaccurate to pretend it’s the reason for tariffs. Why Trudeau hasn’t loudly challenged Trump on the drugs, guns, and illegal immigrants coming from the US into Canada still baffles me. Show the argument to be nonsense and Trump loses his cards. (In theory anyways)

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Glen Thomson's avatar

We should build a list of "sloppy nationalism" concepts. For fun. I'm thinking it would hit 100. I'll start...

#1. Our government is better.

#2. Booing the US anthem makes you a good Canadian.

#3. The USA is a scary place.

#4. Wayne G. suddenly became a traitor.

#5. Our prisons are better.

#6. We don't have ghettos.

#7. The CBC is the best source for unbiased news.

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Milo Hrnić's avatar

You forgot that our milk doesn't have hormones, so of course we should be hypocrites and complain about US tariffs,

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B–'s avatar

Now that the country is on a buy-Canadian kick, we probably could have a conversation about ditching supply management, no?

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Edward Smith's avatar

17% of U.S. milk has added hormones which Agriculture Canada has declared as safe for humans but possibly harmful to cows. This could be easily handled by proper labelling on imported milk and milk products.

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Milo Hrnić's avatar

Or even ban that 17% of milk from entering our market, no reason we can't demand the same standards for imports as domestically produced milk.

We do it with everything else, even cars, so why is milk so special? (I know, Quebec has a milk fetish)

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Edward Smith's avatar

Sure. I doubt many people read the ingredients so carefully posted on almost everything these days anyway.

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Mark F's avatar

I’d actually say our food safety and regulations are better in general.

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B–'s avatar

And there is nothing wrong with subjecting imported items to scrutiny. We do it all the time without supply management.

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Mark F's avatar

Totally agree, we should burn supply management in a fire of trade concessions from other countries

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B–'s avatar

Which means, given the choice, Canadians would choose them, right?

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Carole Saville's avatar

Thanks – great show.

My comment is about Trump. The biggest problem I have with Trump is that Canadian media is so preoccupied with reporting on Trump, that they fail to report on our government and subsequent social problems.

I spent the last few days with my cousin and she hates Trump. I asked her why, and she told me it is because he is a liar. The conversation continued with me verifying that she would not vote for a person who lies. She said she wouldn’t. I replied that Trudeau and many of his liberal ministers had a pretty loose relationship with the truth, and she was going to vote liberal again. I suggested that voting liberal seemed pretty hypocritical. We are still friends.

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Ronald Robinson's avatar

Carney appears to have continued with Justin's tradition of lies and obfuscating....mind you.....with Telford and Butts in the support cast what would one expect.

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David Harrison's avatar

“You are self-selecting out of the lowest common denominator...”

Having reached one realistic life goal, I can finally retire!

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Alastair Sanderson's avatar

As an aside...with Parliament in suspended animation mode, it is amazing how Mr T continues to add more federal unbudgetted expenditures to the tune of billions$$ along with more click bait like banning more firearms - electioneering for his minions so he can point to these "benefits" that the Conservatives won't support..Unfortunately, it might work as many people seem starry eyed about Carney - just like they were about JT. Matt and Jen - any thoughts about what the Conservatives need to do given where the Libs are headed?

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Milo Hrnić's avatar

Hope that Eastern and Central Canadian boomers get hit by a meteorite?

The modern Liberal Party was created by and for the largest demographic in Canada. Why wouldn't they vote for it? The country literally revolves around them when the Liberals are in power.

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HuffyPete's avatar

I listened to Jen’s podcast with Josh Szeps. I was feeling very sorry for her bravely trying to wade her way through our current political morass and explain it to Josh on limited time. Good job Jen!

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Line Editor's avatar

I tried. :(

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HuffyPete's avatar

Haha! It was an impossible task! That would have been two textbooks worth of info. I listened with sympathetic amusement.

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Jason's avatar

Weird that Josh was referred to in this podcast as “this guy.” A lot of your audience will know who he is!

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Line Editor's avatar

I am a borderline autistic who barely remembers Gurney's name most of the time. Don't bully me. JG

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matt's avatar

I enjoyed the podcast too, and good job laying out the Canadian landscape. Though I giggled when Jen started to mention"supply management" and immediately stopped herself and walked it back

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Adam Poot's avatar

I didn't notice that people were accusing you *personally* of having TDS, that's RUDE, an ad hominem you can't defend against, like being called 'racist' or 'groomer'. But Trudeau/Trump-DS do exist - how else do you describe the bozotards with the 'Fuck Trudeau' signs marching down Yonge St, or the wine aunt who posts boomer-tier anti-Trump memes 32 times a day and wants to hang Wayne Gretzky for Treason?

My gripe with yous guys was that you kept making comments like "Canadians may have supported Trump for...*emotional* reasons" or "to pwn the wokes", which to me was a strawman denial that there were any reasons for a non-moron to have supported him, let alone that this was a binary choice. I never expected you to support him, only to understand why others did. As for things I don't like about him - I only came aboard the Trump Train recently, I rooted for DeSantis in the Primary, I have a YUGE list without even mentioning the 51st state stupidity. That said, I'm very glad to hear that woke is over now! I can't wait until the sinecured activists embedded at every level of every Canadian institution find out, boy will they be chagrinned!

Sidenote- I know Donald is using it as a bullshit pretext, but is Sam Cooper just totally off the mark with his reporting on the web of trans-national crime syndicate money-laundering and fentanyl export?

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Matt Gurney's avatar

No, I think Coop is right. I also think even if it wasn’t true Trump would just be using something else.

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Line Editor's avatar

Fwiw, I think Cooper is broadly right about how criminal networks on the west coast work. My concern is that he is getting over his skiis on implicit claims that, say, Trudeau is somehow involved in criminal drug trafficking based on an anonymous (probably US) source, and evidenced by nothing more than the fact that he appears in a picture with dodgy people. But that's just my take as an editor. JG

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Jerry Grant's avatar

Two royal commission reports on money laundering, failed major investigations and 50 thousand dead, yet we still don't have RICO laws or, seemingly, any interest in shutting down the industry.

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Shastri Mel's avatar

Trudeau is not involved but he is complicit. That is quite evident.

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Tony I's avatar

Could also read more Andy Lee

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Adam Poot's avatar

Yes it's a pretext, but if Cooper is correct then that's what Navarro was talking about and he's only guilty of flamboyant hyperbole

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Line Editor's avatar

We are not run by Mexican drug cartels. That's not flamboyant hyperbole. It's a lie. JG

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Neil's avatar

I am not a Trump fan but TDS does exist. Example was Andrew Conyne in his interview on Hurly Burly podcast. his rant was hysterical, I get he does not like trump but he went on and one and on.

Trump is going to do want Trump does regardless of how we feel about him. We need to figure how to deal better with (if possible).

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B–'s avatar

It absolutely exists. I have people in my neigbhourhood who say they don't like to discuss politics (fair point) but when you run into them, the first thing they do is mention something about Trump. If you try to switch to Canadian politics, they have no clue. It's like Trump is some weird thing that Canadians bond over. I avoid mentioning his name on social media because it invites really bad comments not astute commentary. Also, calling Polievre mini-Trump etc., is also a sign of TDS. It's really just a moral panic, although I do realize that he is now giving us tangible things to worry about now.

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Carole Saville's avatar

The very first thing my brother-in-law says to people is that he hates Trump and he wants you to know it. Not so sure it is TDS, but I am sure that it is really stupid.

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Edward Smith's avatar

I started ignoring Andrew Coyne many years ago...... there used to be a CBC TV show headed by Don Newman where he and invited journalists would discuss the political issues of the day - very good discussion except for comments from Andrew Coyne whose comments were invariably dull and pointless. Now he is angry and pointless.

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Ronald Robinson's avatar

Coyne had one interesting article a few months back in G&M. He pointed out how poorly CPP performed relative to other major self directed pension plans and how much the CPP admin costs have increased. I was surprised Coyne would be critical of CCP. And I'm still on fence regarding CPP to APP.

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Gordo's avatar

I like the analogy to the large family business with the divorcing parents. I have no animosity towards the American people - indeed I am on vacation in the USA right now - despite having total contempt for the tariff show being put on by Trump. Still like my cousins/siblings.

Re TDS I think there are actually two strains of that very real syndrome (neither of you have any symptoms of either strain as far as I can tell). The first strain we can maybe call the Rachel Maddow strain and the second we can call the Tucker Carlson strain. What both have in common is a complete disregard for any facts that disprove either (a) everything Trump does is Hitler-like or (b) everything Trump does is super brilliant 4-d chess. A total pox on both those houses.

On another front I gotta' take issue with the claim that wokeness is over in Canada. Check out the Dallas Brodie shit-show going on in BC right this very minute. Wokeness appears to be on its knees in the USA (Gavin Newsom of all people is running from it!!) but I see no evidence that it's in serious trouble in Canada.

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Shastri Mel's avatar

Matt, when was the last time you checked Armed Forces recruitment process? It's pretty broken. 6-8 months for an expedited role, recruitment website that's pretty broken. I tried applying for reserves (3rd attempt in a year) a couple of days ago, it was pretty broken. The Web Application crashed and it is exposing information that would make it easy for hackers to break in. It is hard to be patriotic when things are this broken.

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NotoriousSceptic's avatar

Friend, my hat off for you. If you have time and energy to consider the Reserves, and the "system" is "not interested", you may consider volunteering with Big Brother and Big Sisters.

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Shastri Mel's avatar

Were it that I would have been vary. But the application just crashes. I don't think they are even getting my personal details.

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NotoriousSceptic's avatar

Memo to Jen Gerson: Woke is not over. Nowhere near. All our public institutions and many private companies are infected with this mind virus and it will take a long, long time to extinguish that ideological malignancy.

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Reg Stowell's avatar

Woke is a long way from being over. Check out the Toronto District School Board in the last few weeks. They are still going strong. Check out the leader of the BC Conservative Party who can't stand one of his members commenting on the non-existent lost graves in Kamloops There are a ton of other examples.

I wonder how many people voted against the Democratic candidate for President simply because of her woke views??

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NotoriousSceptic's avatar

Yes, many are aware of those items. From the public information that anyone can gather, it is increasingly evident that the Democrats - one should really say the corporate rich elitist Democrats - handed the White House to Trump by their fixation on climate change and various wokeist progressivist projects: Discrimination-Intolerance-Exclusion, cultural marxism, government-enforced matrix of racism, gender wars, etc. The Dems continued with their progressivistic fixations even though many voters were clearly telling the Dems that bread-and-butter and paycheck issues for them are an increasingly urgent priority, and many interviewed Black and non-white voters said that they want to be hired on merit and not because of the color of their skin. So on voting day a statistically significant part of Dem voters stayed home and a statistically significant part of Dem voters and swing voters voted to give Trump the victory. And it looks like the corporate rich elitist Democrats still have not figured this out. Here in Canada it looks like that some of the Liberals might be figuring this out, at least on the surface. However, it is far too early days of that potential change.

So, a second note to Jen Gerson: Woke in Canada is not over. Nowhere near. By the impositions of the Trudeau Liberal government it became far too entrenched in our public institutions and many private companies. It will take a long, long time to extinguish that ideological malignancy. Couple of decades is my take.

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Ronald Robinson's avatar

And with PM Carney and the support from his wife the social justice warrior...woke just got supercharged.....

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IceSkater40's avatar

I hadn’t heard about Trump talking about the treaties that created the US/Canada border. That concerns me and assuming it’s true, then gosh darn am I on the “build and fund a freakin military and build it now” train. Can we even pull out of NORAD without having the ability to properly defend ourselves? I would assume not. Which means we’re really needing to get things figured out quickly with procurement and recruitment as maybe long term alternate plans are needed that allow us to defend ourselves from the US if needed. (Never thought I’d see that day. The recession from tariffs doesn’t panic me but sudden big talk about the border? That’s crazy talk!)

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B–'s avatar

This isn't exactly a good time to a) disarm the populace and b) constantly talk about how one is disarming the populace.

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NotoriousSceptic's avatar

True. But Leibranos and Troodas as a rule produce stupidity. I never expect anything else from them.

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B–'s avatar
Mar 8Edited

Ah, you ruin your point with that sort of comment, though. You could have not had the dorky names and made a valid point. I tune out that sort of stuff, as I do when someone calls Poilievre PeePee.

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NotoriousSceptic's avatar

I may have ruined my point with you, but not with others. I agree with what you said about my comment. However, on occasion I leave it to you and other nice decent people to use the actual names and terms for those miscreants. Given how docile, passive and amnesiac Canadian population is in face of multi-year abuse meted out to them by the above mentioned miscreants, I see the name-calling by a scruffy loudmouths such as myself a useful reminder to the electorate as to what the above mentioned miscreants have done to them and to the country. And NOW the above mentioned miscreants wrap themselves in the Canadian flag, while some years back they called the Canada Day the day of colonial white supremacists or something along that line.

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