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I may be an outlier here, but I actually liked Poilievre's response (although I agree with a lot of the points you made). I am interested in rhetorical analysis and media bias, so I look at these interactions as little case studies :-).

As an aside about 20 years ago, I recall a CTV reporter interviewing a volunteer spokesperson for a rally. The reporter kept trying the gotcha angle. The spokesperson was polite and handled herself well, but I really wish she had been a bit more gutsy (a la Pierre) in her response. Reporters aren't always unbiased good guys. They often have their angle/agenda and try to steer an interview in a particular way. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. Nobody wants to read stream-of-consciousness from a reporter. The angle helps them focus their story and tells them what info to cut. But they do have to be seen to be impartial. If they don't, they need to be prepared to be called out on it.

I've worked both as a freelance writer and in PR. When working PR for a kid-friendly org, it amazed me how many journalists wanted freebies to cover events. We gave freebies for certain events that we wanted to promote. But one time, a prominent journalists raked me over the coals for not giving a freebie to the venue itself. AND, get this! He wanted a free pass for his wife and kid. He couldn't attend, but he would based his "free publicity" on his family members' experience.

You'll have to forgive me for not always being on the media's side. A lot of times, they deserve the bad rap they get. There are a lot of highly unscrupulous journalists.

And that's why I pay for the Line, The Real Story, Blacklock's etc. I also pay for my local community paper, mostly so the delivery guy has a job. One thing about having my tax dollars go to the mainstream outlets is that I don't feel at all guilty about not giving them a penny of my take-home pay. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Sorry for my stream-of-consciousness rant :-)

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Nov 25, 2023Liked by Line Editor

I think that the problem with the media is that they are the messenger of what has been a few years of continual bad news. The media has taken to suggesting what words we can no longer use, parroting politicians weasel words and telling us that we are phobic about one or two things, racist and; well, generally, we are the somehow the problem and the government (and branches of the government that now includes media) are here to help us.

As was mentioned in your podcast, journalists have gotten to know the politicians and generally understand the problems that the politicians have. Political scientists have pointed out that politicians live in a bubble and the longer a politician is in power the more they see less of what their constituents’ problems are and see the constituents as the problem. This view is reflected in the journalists reporting.

Reporters may see Freeland as a person they know and as a friend. Us plebes see Freeland as patronizing, condescending and completely out of touch while reaching into our pocket book. I won’t go into what many of us see Trudeau as.

We are forced to pay for the CBC ‘news’ (using the term loosely) which is only watched by 4.4% (and dropping) of the population. I prefer to pay for reporting that I feel is balanced (hence your podcast) and truthful, truthful being the important part of this sentence. If Canadians could choose, CBC would be gone and CTV and Global would have to up their game to get market share.

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So, let me see if I have this right ... politicians are the reason that the general public doesn't trust the media. What planet did I just beam in from??? Politicians are small l liberals for the most part and they have sucked up to Liberals and the NDP for so many years that there is little line left especially now that I am paying their salaries!!!! He who pays the piper calls the tune BUT the media lobied for the cash and have no qualms about taking it ... and you blame the politicians?

Ms. Freeland has been a great finance minister??? The woman doesn't know the word no adn would never say it to justin in any event. Why else do we have a huge deficite and a growing deficit and debt??? If you ran your house finances like they have run the countries you'd both be in a box on the street right now. Freeland has been condescending to the general public (you know, we tax payers) since the get go. You seem to be able to see that in Polievre but not the Liberals - check your rose coloured glasses folks. Ms bobble head is the epitomie of the phrase "there is nothing more dangerous than an idiot who thinks they are a genius" and most of the rest of the Liberal cabinet is in the same boat.

Oh, Polievre pushes back agains loaded questions because, yes, the media doesn't like him or the party. Why else do we see so many "well aren't you dog whistling to the right wing?" and "peiple say you are taking a page from Donald Trump's play book" sort of questions. You are right, he pushes back because he is better prepared than the media. So how be the media start throwing some hard ball questions at Justin for a change and holding him to account to answer?

Is Polievre perfect? No. but he has a brain that he uses and seems to have policy ideas that the majority of Canadians see appeal in despite fear that he is a social conservative.

On a brighter note, I subscribe and listen just so that I can hear a different point of view on some issues and, i wil again say that swearing is not putting a professional spin on your pod casts and, no I am not a prude nor am I against swearing as such.

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Nov 25, 2023Liked by Line Editor

Matt

Re your comment on people loving Jen.

I find JG refreshing in both style and content. She comes across as someone I am talking with, either across the table or during a walk. Honest, open, straight up. Yup, I love listening to her.

Unlike some, sorry, many in your profession who are full on talking down to me. A.C. is the easy target regarding that. Politeness forces me to stop on this subject.

Re PP and his treatment of your admitted friends. Others here have clearly stated where it comes from and in your podcast you completely fail to address why he answers how he does, instead blaming "me" because I have a low opinion of the media. Tackle the real reason. Which you bring up in the government bailout discussion but never swing back to PP. The media is already paid to treat both sides differently and you know it. We all do. It gets worse from here. You also know that and hint at it but never swing back to the reasons PP is cautious and confrontational.

Freeland has been addressed here also but yes, she is a terrible fiscal manager, condescending in a manner I have never seen in a politician and completely at odds with how I see a leader should be. I believe you have softened her failings somewhat too much.

I know you don't like this sort of feedback. I won't/don't do it often. Cheers

Geoff

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Nov 24, 2023Liked by Line Editor

Whatever politicians happen to do that's inimical to journalism is overkill anyway, given journalism's own suicidal behaviour. Any journalist who honestly believes the reasons why journalism's credibility is on life support can be traced back to politicians should himself have chosen a different career.

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Millei is what happens when the “serious people” consistently fuck up.

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I suggest viewers and listeners keep track of the number of times an interviewer asks a question, doesn’t get an answer, and doesn’t challenge the interviewee to answer the question asked. Politicians are skilled at this practice but evasion isn’t limited to this group alone; business leaders, sports figures and civil servants among others frequently dodge questions with evasive or obfuscating answers. This lack of follow-up questions is more often apparent with younger newer journalists (journalism schools are you listening?).

I first observed this as a young man working for CBC TV in Vancouver in the 1960’s. B.C. Premier W.A.C Bennett was a past master of this tactic. Later, as general manager of an interior B.C. broadcast company I oversaw multiple newsrooms and worked with dozens of young journalist to correct this failing.

I have great respect for countless journalists. It’s a difficult job and Canada has many examples of journalists doing a brilliant job, but better training and management monitoring would be welcome. Public trust in the media might also be improved.

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Nov 25, 2023Liked by Line Editor

As an AV nerd, I am mildly offended. Sadly, I’m used to the abuse and will maintain my subscription.

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Jen, have you forgotten about all the horrible things that Chrystia Freeland has done? When Jodi Wilson-Raybould and and Jane Philpott where thrown out by Trudeau, Freeland stood by him loyally, always a Trudeau yes-woman. She was absolutely thrilled to be freezing bank accounts of truckers during the protests, which I still hear people in other countries talking about with absolute shock and horror. She has deep roots in Ukraine, which means she of all people should know that someone who fought against the Russians in WWII was fighting on the German side, but she nonetheless applauded in the House enthusiastically for Hunka. I could go on and on about her. In terms of her performance as Minister of Finance, I will go toe to toe with you on this - she has been terrible. I was not a huge fan of Bill Morneau, but in comparison he was the grownup in the room.

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Nov 25, 2023Liked by Line Editor

Loved the episode but can’t get the testicle reference out of my head so thanks for that Jen. 😵‍💫🫨😬

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Nov 25, 2023Liked by Line Editor

“The wife of Caesar must be not only without guilt, but above suspicion.”

But I don’t think they spend much time on the classics in J-School nowadays.

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It’s pronounced mil-lay

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I think more subsidies will lead to more Mansbridge-like interviews, such as the one Blatchford discusses here https://nationalpost.com/opinion/christie-blatchford-when-a-cloying-peter-mansbridge-became-too-much-for-even-trudeau-to-take

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The cause then may be tribal. In that the journalist tribes are progressives who constantly wish to tear down society versus those of us who need to feed our families with the possible view that Max and PP are the journalists enemies because they represent the workers. From what I see that's how the scribes, at least MSM scribes, treat M and PP. Yet JT and the corrosive Jag get "what did you have for supper" questions.

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I reckon it won’t be long before the lists of which media outlets are on the take from big Gov. are compiled. Credibility of the biggest beneficiaries will implode thereafter.

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Nov 25, 2023·edited Nov 25, 2023

I’ve got some pretty solid Trek nerd credentials (ever been president of a Star Trek club, Matt?), but I suggest the distinction between Star Trek fans and AV club members is a pretty fleeting one to outside observers. At least the AV club kids did some service by wheeling the cart with the TV and VCR from classroom to classroom and gained some useful knowledge from reading those product manuals. I’m not sure I provide a lot of cake from having studied Mike Okuda’s ST:TNG Technical Manual.

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