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The Line Podcast: Our smoke attack on America has achieved total success
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The Line Podcast: Our smoke attack on America has achieved total success

On Americans telling on themselves about how much Carney bugs them. On the Tories getting Jagmeet Singhed. And Nenshi ... maybe vanish again?

In the latest episode of The Line Podcast, recorded on July 17th, 2026, Matt Gurney and Jen Gerson keep things refreshingly brief as both are juggling family matters. They begin with Jen’s unsuccessful attempt to achieve cottage zen, as she unloads on the latest complaints from American politicians about wildfire smoke drifting south from Canada. Both hosts independently arrive at the same tongue-in-cheek solution: if the Americans don’t stop griping, Canada should simply schedule its forest fires for days when the wind is blowing south. (They’re kidding. Mostly.) They also discuss Donald Trump’s latest bizarre speech and the increasingly revealing comments from senior U.S. officials, who seem unable to hide just how much Prime Minister Mark Carney has gotten under their skin.

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Your hosts then turn to the slow-burning civil war within Canadian conservatism. Jen, still falling well short of cottage zen, has a few things to say. Matt observes that while Carney may be a practicing Catholic, he also seems to have accumulated an extraordinary amount of good karma in previous lives — politically speaking, he’s facing remarkably little effective opposition from either the left or the right. Matt also warns the Conservatives that, whether they realize it or not, they’re in danger of getting “Jagmeet Singhed.” And it’s not subtle.

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The hosts wrap up by discussing Naheed Nenshi’s apology for speaking with an Israeli, which Matt suggests has elevated the Alberta NDP leader to full windbag status. Matt reminds Jen that he used to complain Nenshi needed to get himself into the public eye more often. After this week, he’d like to politely withdraw that recommendation. Jen wonders if maybe this is why he’s been invisible — he might just actually be awful at this. Anyway, congrats to Danielle Smith. At this rate, she’ll be premier for life.

All that and more in the latest episode of The Line Podcast. Be sure to like and subscribe, and keep your kindling and torches ready. Wait for the code word.

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